Thats a good one Brad. You can try to fool yourself but I hate to tell you your underhanded tactics are just as low (actually lower as your supposed to be a "reputable" CCIE) than the people who post posing as customers saying "hey, go check out this web site, the have great test prep material, all the while they are the ones selling the material. Just because you hid your lack of ethics in the guise of a response to a question doesn't change what you've done. Let's look at your post...
BEllis Quote: If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the simline2. It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc. Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home lab. I believe he posted about it somewhere. Check the archives: www.groupstudy.com If you want more detailed information on the simline2 you can visit www.cheapisdn.com BEllis Unquote: Now lets see... you speak as to how great the simline2 is. You refer to how satisified the owner of groupstudy is as if he's just a friend of yours who bought one and liked it and told you about it. You make no disclaimer that you are affiliated with that site and that YOU WILL directly line your pocket with cash when the purchase is made. You make no mention that Cheap ISDN (remember, you get what you pay for) is actually Network Learning. Now how this is not deceptive to you? Have you ever heard of full disclosure? Or I guess to you speaking as if this is something you just "heard" about and hiding the fact that you'll make lots of cash on the sale is not being deceptive? How about let's disclose in your future "unbiased recommendations" that you'll directly profit from the said recommendation? That would be the honest, upright thing to do! It's funny how you bash Duncan for not disclosing he works for your competitors yet you do not disclose you work for the company you recommend! Hah!!! ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Duncan, > > Hi! Actually, we have never offered Rik ANY form of compensation. Rik has > just been one of many happy customers of ours. > > While other competitors of ours use yahoo accounts, fake email accounts, > post spam, etc, we always post using our real names and dont use any > under-handed tactics. When there are questions about our products or > services, we answer them. I call that customer service, not shameless > plugs. > > It's interesting that you work with Capewave, a competitor of ours, and that > you are badmouthing us. Im not sure that PDS would approve of your post but > we'll copy Paul F. (at PDS) on it and see what he says. > > This thread has really gone off on a tangent, if you wish to respond, please > email me offlist, as I will not respond publically to any future responses > to this post/email. Or feel free to call me, 248-299-7789. > > thanks, > -Brad Ellis > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > Network Learning Inc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ""Duncan Stuart"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > How much are you getting paid to be brad's personal PR man. Why don't you > > reply to individuals instead of replying to the whole group. > > > > By the way your preferred vendor is not quite as squeaky clean as you > would > > think and like the rest of us to think. These guys actually employed some > > extremely unprofessional business ethics to bring you this simulator. I > can > > tell you exactly how much they buy the product for and just how badly they > > are ripping you off. > > > > Cheers and best wishes.... > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Rik Guyler > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841] > > > > > > Shameless plug? Absolutely! No shame in how Brad does business. :-} > > > > Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares? I have learned > over > > the years to listen to him...he is usually right. His simulator is as > > inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it didn't > do > > the job just fine. > > > > I have no financial interest here. I'm just a very satisfied customer > > standing up for my "preferred" vendor! > > > > Rik > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841] > > > > > > Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his > > recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his recommendation > is > > not without bias. Here's some of your options. I'll leave out his as he > > already made a shameless plug. > > > > ISDN emulator on the NET > > http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf > > www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf > > www.diem.com/BT90001.htm > > http://www.tele-products.com/ > > http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html > > http://www.conway-engineering.com/ 5105307682 > > http://www.acacia-net.com/ > > http://www.taskit.com/ > > http://www.monitor.co.at/monitor/498/story/isdnsim.html > > http://www.digitechinc.com > > http://www.ertmsales.com/products/search/viewcart.cfm?Page=1&QtyNA= > > > > > > > > ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Ronald, > > > > > > If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the > > > simline2. It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, > etc. > > > Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home > > lab. > > > I believe he posted about it somewhere. Check the archives: > > > www.groupstudy.com If you want more detailed information on the > simline2 > > > you can visit www.cheapisdn.com > > > > > > thanks, > > > -Brad Ellis > > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > > > Network Learning Inc > > > > > > ""Ronald James"" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab > > in > > > > terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating > > nda, > > > > but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn simulator or > > isdn > > > > lines?? if it's a simulator, which brand? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34203&t=33841 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
