Hi Brad I'm responding publicly because that's what you do all the time. I can't believe how two faced someone can be. They say everything will come out in the wash and I hope it does. I had good response from the previous email because people are beginning to doubt. I don't want to be funny but the term "used car salesman comes to mind". Please note that I am not a competitor of Network Learning, Optsys or CCbootcamp. I know Brad that your business interests are hidden in Group studies like this one and that image is very important, well let me remind you that storm is approaching.
I'm not aware of other competitors using fake email accounts because there are none and I have only witnessed under-handed tactics coming from one well known source on this list. By the way what does "publically" mean. If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad Ellis Sent: 01 February 2002 18:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841] Duncan, Hi! Actually, we have never offered Rik ANY form of compensation. Rik has just been one of many happy customers of ours. While other competitors of ours use yahoo accounts, fake email accounts, post spam, etc, we always post using our real names and dont use any under-handed tactics. When there are questions about our products or services, we answer them. I call that customer service, not shameless plugs. It's interesting that you work with Capewave, a competitor of ours, and that you are badmouthing us. Im not sure that PDS would approve of your post but we'll copy Paul F. (at PDS) on it and see what he says. This thread has really gone off on a tangent, if you wish to respond, please email me offlist, as I will not respond publically to any future responses to this post/email. Or feel free to call me, 248-299-7789. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Duncan Stuart"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > How much are you getting paid to be brad's personal PR man. Why don't you > reply to individuals instead of replying to the whole group. > > By the way your preferred vendor is not quite as squeaky clean as you would > think and like the rest of us to think. These guys actually employed some > extremely unprofessional business ethics to bring you this simulator. I can > tell you exactly how much they buy the product for and just how badly they > are ripping you off. > > Cheers and best wishes.... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Rik Guyler > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841] > > > Shameless plug? Absolutely! No shame in how Brad does business. :-} > > Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares? I have learned over > the years to listen to him...he is usually right. His simulator is as > inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it didn't do > the job just fine. > > I have no financial interest here. I'm just a very satisfied customer > standing up for my "preferred" vendor! > > Rik > > -----Original Message----- > From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841] > > > Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his > recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his recommendation is > not without bias. Here's some of your options. I'll leave out his as he > already made a shameless plug. > > ISDN emulator on the NET > http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf > www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf > www.diem.com/BT90001.htm > http://www.tele-products.com/ > http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html > http://www.conway-engineering.com/ 5105307682 > http://www.acacia-net.com/ > http://www.taskit.com/ > http://www.monitor.co.at/monitor/498/story/isdnsim.html > http://www.digitechinc.com > http://www.ertmsales.com/products/search/viewcart.cfm?Page=1&QtyNA= > > > > ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Ronald, > > > > If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the > > simline2. It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc. > > Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home > lab. > > I believe he posted about it somewhere. Check the archives: > > www.groupstudy.com If you want more detailed information on the simline2 > > you can visit www.cheapisdn.com > > > > thanks, > > -Brad Ellis > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > > Network Learning Inc > > > > ""Ronald James"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab > in > > > terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating > nda, > > > but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn simulator or > isdn > > > lines?? if it's a simulator, which brand? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34191&t=33841 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]