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Rob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thompson, Robert D 
> Sent: 04 February 2002 08:14
> To:   'c1sc0k1d'
> Subject:      RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
> 
> HI 
> 
> I own an PDS Simline 2. Its a great ISDN simulator. It works perfectly and
> goes hand in hand with your lab studies. The one I own does not support
> SPID's as stated on the information of the unit. It supports Basic net 3.
> Its European standards compliant. When connecting the unit to your
> routers,
> it only takes two RJ45 cables ~(one for each router's isdn port, which
> connect into the bri ports of the sim and router respectively). Setting it
> up is easy. It has also got a brilliant trace facility as well as numbers
> built into the unit that you can dial to simulate errors/line faults etc.
> Of
> all the labs I have done on it, it works well. You can monitor the status
> of
> the link (multiple or single channel)with the LED's on the unit as well as
> your router debug commands and show commands and the trace facility that
> helps you understand ISDN call setup and call tear down.  There are loads
> of
> features on this unit that you will like. Its also small and can be used
> when you fault find as well. This unit is a serious time saver when it
> comes
> to faults and labs.....
> 
> If you want a simulator that works, try it.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rob
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       c1sc0k1d [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:       03 February 2002 22:21
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:    Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
> > 
> > Thats a good one Brad.  You can try to fool yourself but I hate to tell
> > you
> > your underhanded tactics are just as low (actually lower as your
> supposed
> > to
> > be a "reputable" CCIE) than the people who post posing as customers
> saying
> > "hey, go check out this web site, the have great test prep material, all
> > the
> > while they are the ones selling the material.  Just because you hid your
> > lack of ethics in the guise of a response to a question doesn't change
> > what
> > you've done.  Let's look at your post...
> > 
> > BEllis Quote:
> > If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the
> > simline2.  It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s,
> etc.
> > Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home
> > lab.
> > I believe he posted about it somewhere.  Check the archives:
> > www.groupstudy.com  If you want more detailed information  on the
> simline2
> > you can visit www.cheapisdn.com
> > BEllis Unquote:
> > 
> > Now lets see... you speak as to how great the simline2 is.  You refer to
> > how
> > satisified the owner of groupstudy is as if he's just a friend of yours
> > who
> > bought one and liked it and told you about it.  You make no disclaimer
> > that
> > you are affiliated with that site and that YOU WILL directly line your
> > pocket with cash when the purchase is made.  You make no mention that
> > Cheap
> > ISDN (remember,  you get what you pay for) is actually Network Learning.
> > Now how this is not deceptive to you?  Have you ever heard of full
> > disclosure?  Or I guess to you speaking as if this is something you just
> > "heard" about and hiding the fact that you'll make lots of cash on the
> > sale
> > is not being deceptive?  How about let's disclose in your future
> "unbiased
> > recommendations" that you'll directly profit from the said
> recommendation?
> > That would be the honest, upright thing to do!
> > 
> > It's funny how you bash Duncan for not disclosing he works for your
> > competitors yet you do not disclose you work for the company you
> > recommend!
> > Hah!!!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ""Brad Ellis""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Duncan,
> > >
> > > Hi!  Actually, we have never offered Rik ANY form of compensation.
> Rik
> > has
> > > just been one of many happy customers of ours.
> > >
> > > While other competitors of ours use yahoo accounts, fake email
> accounts,
> > > post spam, etc, we always post using our real names and dont use any
> > > under-handed tactics.  When there are questions about our products or
> > > services, we answer them.  I call that customer service, not shameless
> > > plugs.
> > >
> > > It's interesting that you work with Capewave, a competitor of ours,
> and
> > that
> > > you are badmouthing us.  Im not sure that PDS would approve of your
> post
> > but
> > > we'll copy Paul F. (at PDS) on it and see what he says.
> > >
> > > This thread has really gone off on a tangent, if you wish to respond,
> > please
> > > email me offlist, as I will not respond publically to any future
> > responses
> > > to this post/email.  Or feel free to call me, 248-299-7789.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > -Brad Ellis
> > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> > > Network Learning Inc
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > ""Duncan Stuart""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > How much are you getting paid to be brad's personal PR man.  Why
> don't
> > you
> > > > reply to individuals instead of replying to the whole group.
> > > >
> > > > By the way your preferred vendor is not quite as squeaky clean as
> you
> > > would
> > > > think and like the rest of us to think. These guys actually employed
> > some
> > > > extremely unprofessional business ethics to bring you this
> simulator.
> > I
> > > can
> > > > tell you exactly how much they buy the product for and just how
> badly
> > they
> > > > are ripping you off.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers and best wishes....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of
> > > > Rik Guyler
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Shameless plug?  Absolutely!  No shame in how Brad does business.
> :-}
> > > >
> > > > Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares?  I have
> learned
> > > over
> > > > the years to listen to him...he is usually right.  His simulator is
> as
> > > > inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it
> > didn't
> > > do
> > > > the job just fine.
> > > >
> > > > I have no financial interest here.  I'm just a very satisfied
> customer
> > > > standing up for my "preferred" vendor!
> > > >
> > > > Rik
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his
> > > > recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his
> > recommendation
> > > is
> > > > not without bias.  Here's some of your options.  I'll leave out his
> as
> > he
> > > > already made a shameless plug.
> > > >
> > > > ISDN emulator on the NET
> > > > http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf
> > > > www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf
> > > > www.diem.com/BT90001.htm
> > > > http://www.tele-products.com/
> > > > http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html
> > > > http://www.conway-engineering.com/       5105307682
> > > > http://www.acacia-net.com/
> > > > http://www.taskit.com/
> > > > http://www.monitor.co.at/monitor/498/story/isdnsim.html
> > > > http://www.digitechinc.com
> > > > http://www.ertmsales.com/products/search/viewcart.cfm?Page=1&QtyNA=
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ""Brad Ellis""  wrote in message
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Ronald,
> > > > >
> > > > > If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go
> with
> > the
> > > > > simline2.  It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s,
> > 2504s,
> > > etc.
> > > > > Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his
> > home
> > > > lab.
> > > > > I believe he posted about it somewhere.  Check the archives:
> > > > > www.groupstudy.com  If you want more detailed information  on the
> > > simline2
> > > > > you can visit www.cheapisdn.com
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > > -Brad Ellis
> > > > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> > > > > Network Learning Inc
> > > > >
> > > > > ""Ronald James""  wrote in message
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for
> home
> > lab
> > > > in
> > > > > > terms of functionalities and pricing?     hope this is not
> > violating
> > > > nda,
> > > > > > but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn
> simulator
> > or
> > > > isdn
> > > > > > lines??  if it's a simulator, which brand?




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