For example, here is just one study from today:

http://news.com.com/2009-1033-839335.html


""nrf""  wrote in message
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> Most indications seem to be that the networking industry, and the
> telco/provider segment in particular will greatly lag any general economic
> recovery.  Nobody is predicting a serious telecom recovery this year, and
> many economists don't even predict one next year.  Many big names have
> already gone down - Exodus, Excite@home, GlobalCrossing - and others are
> playing serious defense - Level3, MCIWorldcom, AT&T, Qwest.   Huge debt
> payments continue to hang over the industry, and that problem won't be
> cleared up anytime soon.
>
> One dirty little secret of the provider industry is that very few
providers
> actually make consistent profit on a true cash-flow basis. Just like the
> dotcoms, the providers can't figure out how to wring a decent amount of
> profit out from the Internet either.     Sure, many providers will claim
> pro-forma profits, but after the Enron catastrophe, nobody wants to see
> pro-forma numbers, correctly preferring real cash-flow numbers.
>
> But all this talk might be a case of fiddling while Rome burns.  All this
> talk of a future recovery  in the long run doesn't really help anybody
right
> now.  Like the macro-economist John Maynard Keynes once said: "In the long
> run, we're all dead".  Specifically, discussion of decent job prospects in
> the future doesn't exactly help a guy who needs to pay the bills now.
>
>
>
>
> ""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
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> > It's the economy.  When it picks up, so will the jobs.
> > ""saktown""  wrote in message
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> > > I don't know if this is going to make you feel better or not (probably
> > not),
> > > but anyways it is not strictly true that there are all these networks
> that
> > > need to be maintained.  A lot of people have wondered how the industry
> can
> > > be laying all these people off if there are a constant number of
complex
> > > networks to maintain.
> > >
> > > The fallacy in that logic is that  in reality the number of networks,
> and
> > > their complexity, has indeed gone down in absolute terms.   While the
> > > enterprise space still continues to maintain lukewarm demand, the
> > > telco/provider segment  is nothing less than a disaster of epic
> > proportions.
> > > I would contend that for every new box requisitioned by an enterprise,
> > > another 2 or 3 have been decommissioned by a dying provider.   Check
out
> > the
> > > latest auction of Cisco gear from Excite@Home as a poignant example.
> > > Furthermore, much of the growth in the enterprise space requires very
> > little
> > > skill to set up (i.e. install a single router to connect to an ISP),
> > whereas
> > > provider networks tend to be tremendously complicated, therefore
> requiring
> > > great expertise to maintain, but of course now there is no more
provider
> > > network to maintain.  Hence, you have lots of highly skilled network
> dudes
> > > who got laid off from providers who are now competing for jobs running
> > > networks for enterprises.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "John Green"
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:16 AM
> > > > Subject: what is wrong with the job market ? [7:35611]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > seems all jobs have just vanished. well then who runs
> > > > > the networks and equipment ? it's real bad out there
> > > > > in the job market.
> > > > > any web sites to put the resume ? seems dice, monster,
> > > > > headhunter are not producing any results.
> > > > >
> > > > > how long is this goind to last ?
> > > > >
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