I think what you are talking about is a static nat ( conduit, in Cisco
speak )

It's done all the time, for just the reason you mention. any device for
which you want / need a single internet face, use a static NAT.

Chuck

""Michael Hair""  wrote in message
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> I have been re-reading the posts again and I have one question.
>
> I believe what Chuck says is true about NAT outbound changes the source
> address, not the destination address.
>
> So....
>
> Would it be possible to change the destination address on the inbound side
?
>
> For example.
>
> Let say I have a web server behind my router doing NAT. 192.168.75.105.
How
> would I tell the router to redirect connections going to 209.165.166.59
port
> 80 to go to 192.168.75.105 port 80. So I would be using the private
address
> on the inside but still want the public IP address to be used by outside
> world. Would this not be changing the destination address ?
>
> Can this actually be done ?
>
> Thanks
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> ""Chuck""  wrote in message
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> > hhmmm.....
> >
> > as I understand the original question, each workstation in the network
in
> > question is hard coded for DNS.
> >
> > So, if for example, my machine is hard coded for DNS server
207.126.96.162
> > ( my ISP DNS server ) and I change ISP's, and make no changes to my
> > workstation, then any DNS request will have a destination address of
> > 207.126.96.162
> >
> > The question, as I understand, if how to change that destination address
> > without making workstation visits.
> >
> > Policy routing can change next hop, but not destination address. NAT
> > outbound changes source address, not destination address.
> >
> > Unless there is a packet interceptor that takes all DNS requests, and
> > physically changes the destination address, the user has few options.
> >
> > Again, IF the former ISP does not restrict DNS requests to its own
address
> > space, i.e. accepts DNS requests from anywhere, then there is no
problem,
> > and no changes need be made.
> >
> > However IF ( and this would be good practice for a lot of reasons ) the
> > former ISP does indeed restrict DNS requests to source addresses within
> its
> > own space, then there will have to be additional changes on the user
> > network.
> >
> > This whole discussion illustrates why people SHOULD follow best practice
> > from the get go. If they want to hard code IP's, then I believe DHCP can
> be
> > configured so that it provides only DNS info and default gateway info,
for
> > example. the people who have insisted that their network hard code
> > everything are now learning the hard lesson.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> > > At 05:11 AM 2/18/02, Godswill HO wrote:
> > > >You can still use your former ISP's DNS records while using the new
> ISP's
> > > >bandwidth. It does not matter who owns the DNS server. Everybody have
> > access
> > > >to it once they are in the internet. Except when they are
specifically
> > > >filtered.
> > > >
> > > >The only drawn back is that, Your new ISP have to forward the packet
in
> a
> > > >round trip to the old ISP's network through the internet before they
> are
> > > >resolved and sent back to you machine,
> > >
> > > It would depend on what records they are accessing. If the users are
> going
> > > to the Internet and accessing sites such as www.cisco.com and
> > > www.groupstudy.com, for example, the DNS queries don't have to go back
> to
> > > the original ISP.
> > >
> > > >had it been you are using the DNS of
> > > >your new ISP, these request would stop there. Do not loose your
sleep,
> > > >because at the worst these delays are in milisseconds and not easily
> > > >noticeable by the eye, more each machine have a cache so it does not
> > forward
> > > >every request. Great if you have a Cache Engine to compliment the
> > machine's
> > > >cache.
> > > >
> > > >Whatever, you are kool and everything will be fine, switch to your
new
> > ISP
> > > >and enjoy.
> > > >
> > > >Regards.
> > > >Oletu
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Michael Hair
> > > >To:
> > > >Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 8:07 PM
> > > >Subject: DNS Request Redirection [7:35703]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I was wondering what is the best way to take care of the
following:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been using a private address space behind a Cisco 4500
router
> > > > > connected up to our current ISP using NAT, now we want to move our
> > > > > connection from our current ISP to a new ISP with better
bandwidth.
> My
> > > > > problem is that we don't want to change all our client machines
> TCP/IP
> > > > > settings, which are all static, for some reason or another they
were
> > all
> > > > > setup to use our ISP's DNS. Not my idea but that another problem.
So
> > how
> > > >can
> > > > > I setup our router to forward requests looking from our current
> ISP's
> > DNS
> > > >to
> > > > > our new ISP's DNS without touching all the client machines.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would the best way be to use policy-base routing?
> > > > >
> > > > > Would a static route work?
> > > > >
> > > > > Could I use a static route under NAT?
> > > > >
> > > > > If someone could proved me a sample of how you could do this I
would
> > be
> > > > > greatful...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Michael
> > > >_________________________________________________________
> > > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> > > ________________________
> > >
> > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > http://www.priscilla.com




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