No, you Bostonians aren't that bad. I'll be there in June for my hubby's 
MIT reunion. Should be interesting.

I don't know the history of UDP. It sounds like it could have come from 
Berkeley or Santa Cruz or Eugene or some such pinko, commie, anarchist 
place! ;-)

Priscilla

At 03:41 PM 3/27/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
>""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> > The history of TCP/IP is somewhat muddy, as you can imagine.
> >
> > At 02:04 PM 3/27/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
> > >I am a technical reviewer for a book, and someone wrote that TCP/IP was
> > >written by the Depertment of Defense.
> >
> > I agree that you should question that.
> >
> > >  I am confident that ARPAnet was
> > >commissiond by the DoD in the 60's to BBN
> >
> > Yes, you could say that. The Information Processing Techniques Office
> > (IPTO) of ARPA awarded the contract to build the Interface Message
> > Processors (IMP) for ARPANET to BBN in late 1968. IMPs were the early
> > routers. BBN built the IMPs with the help (or hindrance if you believe
>some
> > reports) of Honeywell. Honeywell developed and manufactured the hardware.
> > BBN did the software.
> >
> > Descriptions of the "network layer" software that ran on these IMPs
>doesn't
> > sound much like IP at all. It was connection-oriented, for one thing, and
> > handled error correction. It was very East-Coast anal-retentive stuff.
;-)
>
>
>Us Bostonians aren't that bad, are we?
>
> >
> > The software that evolved into TCP/IP was a West-Coast hippy-dippy geeky
> > phenomenon.
>
>Is UDP a west-coast thing?
>
>UCLA, SRI, UC Santa Barbara, USC, and University of Utah
> > graduate students and researchers worked on it. Originally they had to
>make
> > sure their software interoperated with the IMPs of the ARPANET. They
> > developed a protocol called the Network Control Protocol (NCP) that
worked
> > on the end devices that communicated with the IMPs. It was a host-to-host
> > protocol that could be considered a predecessor to TCP.
> >
> > NCP worked only with ARPANET. By 1973 or so, ARPANET wasn't the only game
> > in town though. There was packet radio (which evolved into Ethernet),
> > SATNET, and others. A more general-purpose protocol was needed. Vint Cerf
> > who was with UCLA at the time and Bob Kahn, who had been at BBN but now
> > worked for ARPA directly, worked on a new protocol called Transmission
> > Control Protocol (TCP) that was general-purpose. They made the assumption
> > that the underlying network was unreliable. The new protocol shifted the
> > job of reliability from the network to the destination hosts.
> >
> > Originally TCP handled the routing of packets also. TCP had jobs that we
> > would today assign to the network and transport layers.
> >
> > And finally, in 1978, we come to the birth of the Internet Protocol (IP).
> > In 1978, the job of routing packets was broken away from TCP. TCP was
>given
> > the task of breaking messages into packets, reassembling them at the
other
> > end, detecting errors, resending anything lost, and putting packets in
the
> > right order. IP was simply responsible for forwarding individual packets.
> > The specifications for how this should work were written by Cerf at UCLA,
> > and Postel and Cohen from the University of Southern California's
> > Information Sciences Institute (ISI).
> >
> > In the early 1980s, the ARPANET got really congested and the National
> > Science Foundation created its own network for the academic computer
> > science community. It used TCP/IP and is sometimes considered the real
> > forerunner of "the Internet," although it probably could never have
> > happened without the work that went into the ARPANET. ARPANET converted
to
> > TCP/IP in 1983. It also divided into MILNET and ARPANET. It had
> > connectivity with all the other networks by then. Later it got
> > decommissioned. By 1989, it was gone, but its legacy lived on. May it
RIP.
> > ;-)
> >
> > Here's a recommendation for a terrific book about the history of the
> > Internet:
> >
> > "Where Wizards Stay Up Late: The Origins of the Internet" by Katie Hafner
> > and Matthew Lyon.
>
>I'll definitely read that book, as I love that kind of stuff.
>
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > >, and maybe TCP/IP was derived from
> > >these early protocls, but to say the the DoD, or BBN or anyone other
than
> > >the Internet community wrote TCP and IP would be incorrect, right?  I
>seem
> > >to remember that IP was used in ArpaNet, but not TCP.  I thought TCP was
> > >written in various universities.  I could even look up the couple (who
>used
> > >to work at Cisco) who wrote it.
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > >Get in my head:
> > >http://sar.dynu.com
> > ________________________
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com
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