Thanks for taking a variant of that (anti-cert-worshipping-centric) stance.
Minor points: 1) confusing DENNIS for DENISE is probably not acceptable in any human forum. 2) Why would it be worth mention that Radia Perlman is not a CCIE, since she does not focus on cisco-specific issues, does not regularly participate in this newsgroup and was already more employable in this field and many more enlightened ones than almost any CCIE since before the CCIE program started? Why her and not Tony Li? Andrew Tannenbaum? Douglas Comer? Richard Stevens? John VonNeumann? (I know the last one was a stretch . . .) disclaimer: I'm grateful for her expertise & written candor, I'm just not sure what she has in common with the other people mentioned. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:18 PM Subject: RE: Scenario Design: Comments Invited [7:41992] > Dennis, > Unfortunately, you do not know Howard. If you knew him, you would never post > such a message. > > Alone that Mr. Howard Berkowitz takes time to post a message to this list is > an > honor for the people who know him. Howard does not need to be CCIE to be > respected in the networking community. Honestly, I don't believe there is > any > certification that could possibly add to Howard's highly respected image. > > Are these four digit numbers all that you can use to judge people, > especially > people that you don't know? > > Jeff Doyle is not a CCIE any more and does not even work for Cisco. Does > this > make him even a tiny bit less respected? > > Priscilla is not a CCIE, so what? Would we possibly respect her and her > invaluable inputs any more if she were one? > > Marc Russell is not a CCIE (so far as I know- sorry if I am wrong), but his > scenarios are the best tools to become a CCIE. There are hundreds of CCIEs > who > owe him their certifications. > > For your information, Radia Perlman is not a CCIE neither. > > Howard, on behalf of myself and all the members of this group who know you > (not > personally, though) I apologize to you for such uncalled for remarks. > > > A Strobel > > > > > > > Quoting Denise Donohue : > > > I don't know you, so please don't take this personally, but it seems > > strange > > to me that someone who is not a CCIE is writing labs that they expect > > people > > studying for the CCIE to buy. From pasts posts on this forum, I think that > > you have never even taken the test. My recommendation is for you to sit > > the > > exam a time (or two or three!). Then you'll be able to answer your own > > questions about the format of practice labs. > > > > No offense, just my 2 cents. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Howard C. Berkowitz > > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:22 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Scenario Design: Comments Invited > > > > > > I'd like to start a discussion on the design of two kinds of scenarios: > > 1. lab preparation. (problem recognition, speed building, > > interaction among many protocols, time pressure, etc.) > > > > > -_-_-_ Mail3000 gives you 30 Megs of Email space free -_-_- > This mail sent through http://mail3000.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=42041&t=41992 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
