Another somewhat one sided approach by Stroebel... Maybe one day he'll get the names and faces together with the issues.....
Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cullimore" To: Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Scenario Design: Comments Invited [7:41992] > Thanks for taking a variant of that (anti-cert-worshipping-centric) stance. > > Minor points: > > 1) confusing DENNIS for DENISE is probably not acceptable in any human > forum. > > 2) Why would it be worth mention that Radia Perlman is not a CCIE, since she > does not focus on cisco-specific issues, does not regularly participate in > this newsgroup and was already more employable in this field and many more > enlightened ones than almost any CCIE since before the CCIE program started? > > Why her and not Tony Li? Andrew Tannenbaum? Douglas Comer? Richard Stevens? > John VonNeumann? > > (I know the last one was a stretch . . .) > > disclaimer: I'm grateful for her expertise & written candor, I'm just not > sure what she has in common with the other people mentioned. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:18 PM > Subject: RE: Scenario Design: Comments Invited [7:41992] > > > > Dennis, > > Unfortunately, you do not know Howard. If you knew him, you would never > post > > such a message. > > > > Alone that Mr. Howard Berkowitz takes time to post a message to this list > is > > an > > honor for the people who know him. Howard does not need to be CCIE to be > > respected in the networking community. Honestly, I don't believe there is > > any > > certification that could possibly add to Howard's highly respected image. > > > > Are these four digit numbers all that you can use to judge people, > > especially > > people that you don't know? > > > > Jeff Doyle is not a CCIE any more and does not even work for Cisco. Does > > this > > make him even a tiny bit less respected? > > > > Priscilla is not a CCIE, so what? Would we possibly respect her and her > > invaluable inputs any more if she were one? > > > > Marc Russell is not a CCIE (so far as I know- sorry if I am wrong), but > his > > scenarios are the best tools to become a CCIE. There are hundreds of CCIEs > > who > > owe him their certifications. > > > > For your information, Radia Perlman is not a CCIE neither. > > > > Howard, on behalf of myself and all the members of this group who know you > > (not > > personally, though) I apologize to you for such uncalled for remarks. > > > > > > A Strobel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoting Denise Donohue : > > > > > I don't know you, so please don't take this personally, but it seems > > > strange > > > to me that someone who is not a CCIE is writing labs that they expect > > > people > > > studying for the CCIE to buy. From pasts posts on this forum, I think > that > > > you have never even taken the test. My recommendation is for you to sit > > > the > > > exam a time (or two or three!). Then you'll be able to answer your own > > > questions about the format of practice labs. > > > > > > No offense, just my 2 cents. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > Howard C. Berkowitz > > > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:22 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Scenario Design: Comments Invited > > > > > > > > > I'd like to start a discussion on the design of two kinds of scenarios: > > > 1. lab preparation. (problem recognition, speed building, > > > interaction among many protocols, time pressure, etc.) > > > > > > > > > -_-_-_ Mail3000 gives you 30 Megs of Email space free -_-_- > > This mail sent through http://mail3000.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=42044&t=41992 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
