At 8:03 PM -0400 6/30/02, Chuck wrote:
>""Howard C. Berkowitz""  wrote in message
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>>  At 8:44 PM -0400 6/29/02, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
>>  >At 12:49 PM 6/29/02, Michael L. Williams wrote:
>>  >>I have successfully used both an "all-zeros" and an "all-ones" subnet
on
>>  >>Windows 9x.  (192.168.0.0/24 and 192.168.255.0/24)  Works fine.
>>  >
>>  >Those aren't subnets, though, since it's class C.
>>  >
>>  >Priscilla
>>
>>  Ah, Priscilla, Priscilla, Priscilla.  And all along I respected you
>>  because I thought your design thinking had no class.
>>
>>  It would be accurate to say 192/8 is the traditional Class C space,
>
>CL: 192/3?  "Class C"  space includes anything from 192/8 through 223/8 Am I
>constructing the CIDR block correctly?

Strictly, yes. But there are historical issues here.  192/8 was the 
only part widely assigned before there was concern about address 
exhaustion, and today is called "the swamp", with that part of 192/8 
greater than /24 called the "toxic waste dump".  At the start of the 
CIDR effort, the swamp took up 50% of the routing table, and the 
toxic waste dump took up 50% of the swamp.

By the time there were significant allocations from the rest of the 
traditional class C space, registries were asking for much more 
justification, and also might assign CIDR blocks.

>
>CL: also, in a situation where it matters, would an ISP advertsie 192/8,
>recognizing it contains defined private space?

I can't see any reason why anyone would advertise 192/8. Large chunks 
of it, yes, and generally very poorly aggregated.  At the time 192/8 
was being allocated, if you needed more space, you'd typically get a 
traditional class B assignment.

>
>
>>  with the assumption of a /24 mask. To have shorter masks in that
>>  space does imply CIDR awareness, but there can still be significant
>>  problems -- and carrier filtering issues -- merely because something
>>  is in 192/8.
>>
>>  Ironically, I once had a /22 in 192/8, which was generally subnetted
>>  into /25's. There were a couple of sites where I could have used a
>>  /24, but chose not to because any /24 tends to draw unneeded
>  > attention of the Address Vigilantes.




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