Chuck's Long Road wrote:
> 
> ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in
> message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > No wonder you are a bit lost. They aren't using our
> networking terminology
> > quite correctly. There's no such thing as a broadcast port
> and hence you
> > can't open it. Perhaps what they mean is that you need to get
> the router
> to
> > forward the IP broadcasts to UDP port 42508. Do this with an
> ip
> > helper-address on the incoming interface. Tell the router to
> forward the
> > packets to a specific address or a broadcast address,
> depending on your
> > needs. Make sure you are specific regarding which packets to
> forward by
> > using the ip forward-protocol and no ip forward-protocol
> commands.
> Otherwise
> > the router will forward TFTP, DNS, NTP, NetBIOS, DHCP, and
> TACACS and not
> > the packets in question. (The app does use UDP I hope? I
> don't this works
> > for TCP-based traffic.)
> >
> > It doesn't sound like a very well-behaved application. I
> wonder why it has
> > to use broadcasts? But, application developers often don't
> know
> networking.
> > Argh. ;-)
> 
> CL: off topic, but I finally got my OpNet upgrade installed
> today. failed
> several times because...... OpNet demands that the license
> registration take
> place over the web, and for some reason their web server and my
> employer's
> firewall aboslutely hated eachother. Once I plugged my laptop
> directly to
> the 'net, the licences registration went perfectly.

Ugh. Maybe it was using a non-standard port or something...

> 
> CL: I mention this only becasue of your comment about well
> behaved
> applications. These days, with unlimited bandwidth, I wonder if
> it is even

Bandwidth isn't the issue, but getting it to work certainly is, as you saw.
I read the document for that app in question, Etrust AntiVirus Inoculate. It
appears that the Redistribution Server downloads signatures from Computer
Associates via FTP. That should be fun to get throught the various
firewalls!? The document doesn't even say if it uses passive or active.

Also, I wonder about a man-in-the-middle attack. One could wreak havoc by
messing with those downloads. They probably are aware of that though. I only
have that one document and I'm sure it's not the entire story....

Have fun with OpNet!

Priscilla

> worth the fight about well behave apps and security conscious
> vendors. About
> the only reason I am even bothering with OpNet is because it
> has a decent
> simulation component, and it is my intention to learn how to
> bang out some
> bandwidth simulations to show the relative merits of 256K
> internet access
> versus full T1 internet access. Last time I did one of these
> sims ( a couple
> of years ago ) the software indicated there wasn't much merit
> at all. I'm
> curis to see if they OpNet has become a bit more sophisticated
> and if so,
> what that might mean for their conclusions.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > Elijah Savage III wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok I am a little lost here but our NT team has rolled out
> this
> > > product.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://files.ruca.ua.ac.be/pub/security/virus/ca/rolloutig.pdf
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Everything is working but the server can't see the clients
> > > because in
> > > the document above it states that router ports need to be
> open
> > > to past
> > > these broadcast, I do not think this is a good idea but my
> hand
> > > is being
> > > pushed to make this happen. But question is how in the heck
> I
> > > am gonna
> > > get routers to past this broadcast port stated in that
> document.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is the snippet.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 5) What port number would you like the admin server to poll
> > > clients on?
> > >
> > > In the NameClient section of the ICF file two settings for
> > > client
> > > polling by the admin server
> > >
> > > exist. These values are Broadcast ports and Pollbroadcast
> ports
> > > both
> > > with the default
> > >
> > > value of 42508. For security reasons, it is suggested that
> you
> > > change
> > > these values. In
> > >
> > > addition, to perform a free election this port must be
> opened
> > > on the
> > > routers internally for
> > >
> > > broadcasts.
> 
> 




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