I had the same issue with outlook, its real slow when accessing Imap 
mail. I set the MTU, adjusted other
things, etc..nothing seems to fix this issue for me. I set up Netscape 
6.2x messenger/mail. Installed the
mail client for Imap mail, and it works fine...sometimes it hangs for a 
second or two, but not anything like
outlook....

Larry

Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 wrote:

>I may be way out of line, but there aren't any access lists which may be
>prohibiting the IMAP ports used by exchange, are there. I ran into a config
>mess with DMZ's and access lists for a beta product test once. And that was
>what we saw - all worked (http, proxy, etc.) but Exchange was gone. Turned
>out to be some Checkpoint and access-list tweaking.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JohnZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:43 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]
>
>Thanks Priscilla, I definitely don't mind even if it was criticisim
>especially coming from some one of your caliber. Thank you for the pointers
>and I will do some more deligant troubleshooting. And yes Mike it is outlook
>that refuses to work properly. There is no problem browsing, home user is
>able to copy files of all sizes with out any problems. We can ping the email
>server from the user's workstation heck I am even pc-anwhered into his
>machine. But as soon we start outlook it just hangs. I will further
>investigate the router's config although it's using a template that's
>working elsewhere under different service provider without a hitch.
>""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>>I agree that it doesn't sound like an MTU problem. There are often
>>
>problems
>
>>with MTU when DSL, VPNs, tunnels, etc. are used, so people might jump to
>>that conclusion. But e-mail messages are often very short and would easily
>>fit into most MTUs even after overhead. To test whether it's an MTU
>>
>problem,
>
>>try some oversized pings.
>>
>>The MTU issue occurs when a full-sized packet arrives at an interface that
>>needs to squeeze it into an MTU along with the overhead. The interface
>>
>could
>
>>fragment, but maybe the application or transport layer set the Don't
>>Fragment bit. Quite a few applications do that as part of their MTU
>>discovery process. The problem is made worse if there's an access list
>>
>that
>
>>is blocking the ICMP "Fragmentation required but DF bit set" message.
>>
>>Here's a Cisco article on MTU:
>>
>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/56.html
>>
>>This isn't a criticism of the original poster, who was already doubting
>>
>the
>
>>people who told him it was an MTU problem, but it does give me a chance to
>>get on my soapbox about troubleshooting methods. A lot of people
>>troubleshoot using the technique we learned in grade school to match items
>>from Column A with items from Column B. ;-) Column A has network types and
>>Column B has most common problem for network type. It's important to know
>>about common problems, but it's just as important to gather data, research
>>symptoms, and use logic and reasoning.
>>
>>Cisco's troubleshooting method really does work:
>>
>>1. Define the problem.
>>2. Gather facts.
>>3. Consider possibilities.
>>4. Create an action plan.
>>5. Implement the action plan.
>>6. Observe the results.
>>7. Do problem symptoms stop?
>>
>>If no, go back to 4 or possibly to 2.
>>If yes, problem resolved, document the results.
>>
>>OK, off my soapbox now!  :-)
>>
>>_______________________________
>>
>>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>>www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
>>www.priscilla.com
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>I found email to be a touchy thing...  Especially when dealing
>>>with M$
>>>0utlook.  Are you sure it's the MTU size that's the problem
>>>with email.
>>>
>>>I know in our situation, I had to add the mail server name & IP
>>>to the host
>>>file of the remote pc.  Some times we experience some latency,
>>>but for the
>>>most part it's only been about half a minute.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>mkj
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: JohnZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:55 PM
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]
>>>
>>>
>>>Can some one explain clearly how does MTU size affect windows
>>>applications
>>>where these applications won't work over a network link. I have
>>>a certain
>>>home user that can establish a vpn tunnel through a DSL to
>>>corporate network
>>>and all applications will work except for email. The only
>>>difference is a
>>>cisco router in between the homeuser and corporate network.
>>>Without this
>>>cisco router (with homeuser directly attached to DSL modem)
>>>there are no
>>>problems. Some one mentioned MTU could be the problem, but if
>>>the frames are
>>>larger then MTU don't they get fragmented and re-assembled at
>>>the other end.
>>>How could MTU size fail single application while everything
>>>else works fine.
>>>Thanks for any help.




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