Ok this just didn't jive with my understanding so I went back to the
lab and tried something.

  I have a 6509 with redundant supII's.  On the redundant sup I have a
trunk to a 3550 and the native VLAN is 64.  I pulled out the active SUP,
slot1.  The redundant sup came active, all is good.  I did a "clear
config all" on the this sup.  I then powered off the switch, pulled out
the SUP in sot 2 and reinstalled the primry SUP in slot 1.  Brought the
switch back up and everything looked as I expected.  I reinstalled the
redundant SUP and after it initialized and synched up with the primary
SUP port 2/2 was once again trunking with native VLAN 64.

  It acted as I thought it would.

  Dave

Larry Letterman wrote:
> 
> yes...which is why a new one comes up as default
> on vlan 1 as the native vlan for all ports...
> 
> 
> Larry Letterman
> Network Engineer
> Cisco Systems Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > Ken Diliberto
> > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:08 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Native VLAN 1 [7:55743]
> >
> >
> > Sensing how easy it would be for me to make the same mistake...
> >
> > Does this mean the supervisor will come up with an existing
> > configuration before automatic synchronization takes place?
> >
> > >>> "Larry Letterman"  10/17/02 09:02AM >>>
> > mad,
> > You are correct, teh second sup is the redundant sup...
> > the config for it is on itself. So when I replaced it
> > the new one was set for vlan 1 and that caused the issue.
> >
> >
> >
> > Larry Letterman
> > Network Engineer
> > Cisco Systems Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com]On Behalf
> > Of
> > > MADMAN
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 7:35 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Native VLAN 1 [7:55743]
> > >
> > >
> > > Since the config for the line cards resides on the sup there should
> > be
> > > no problem swapping out same line cards, if the native VLAN was
> > changed,
> > > the change will be employed on the new card also.
> > >
> > >   When you swapped out a standby sup in your example below I don't
> > quite
> > > understand what hapened.  The standby sup uplinks are active so what
> > > changed??  When you say you swapped out the sceondary sup the
> > redundant
> > > sup came up, isn't the secondary sup the redundant sup??
> > >
> > >   The greater point is though I agrre with Larry, leave the native
> > VLAN
> > > as 1, changing it is of no value as far as I can tell.
> > >
> > >   Dave
> > >
> > > Larry Letterman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I personally changed out a secondary sup card, when I was new in
> > the lan
> > > > team..
> > > > the redundant sup came up with with the trunk port 2/1 config'd
> > > for native
> > > > vlan
> > > > 1. this caused the vtp management to issue a vlan mismatch...which
> > then
> > > > started
> > > > a stp recalc, which caused utilization on the gateway to go up
> > trying to
> > > > process the
> > > > bpdu storm, which prevented the network from working correctly...
> > > >
> > > > leaving everything in native 1 prevents this....
> > > >
> > > > Larry Letterman
> > > > Network Engineer
> > > > Cisco Systems Inc.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com]On
> > Behalf Of
> > > > > Erick B.
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:53 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Native VLAN 1 [7:55743]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Comments inline...
> > > > >
> > > > > --- The Long and Winding Road
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > ""Larry Letterman""  wrote in message
> > > > > > news:200210170505.FAA27055@;groupstudy.com...
> > > > > > > Pris,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In our 6509's we used to make the native vlan and
> > > > > > the data vlan
> > > > > > > the same and it was something other than 1...if a
> > > > > > blade fails and
> > > > > > > we put in a new one , it defaults to vlan 1 for
> > > > > > all ports. If the
> > > > > > > blade has trunk ports in it, they get set to
> > > > > > native vlan 1. The other
> > > > > > > end is set for something else, this resulted in
> > > > > > vlan mismatch in the vtp
> > > > > > > domain, and in a lot of instances we suffered stp
> > > > > > recalcs that took
> > > > > > > buildings down for periods of time...we
> > > > > > subsequently have returned to
> > > > > > > making native vlan 1 on all trunks and have not
> > > > > > had any issues since..
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to clarify a few items so we fully understand
> > > > > this behavior so next time I need to hot-swap I am
> > > > > prepared to make config changes as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought the running config in RAM (and NVRAM) stayed
> > > > > the same when swapping *same model* blades in the same
> > > > > slot. If this isn't the case, then is some of the
> > > > > config the same and some is defaulted?
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you point us to a cisco doc explaining this
> > > > > behavior?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > David Madland
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Sr. Network Engineer
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612-664-3367

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