This all makes a lot of sense, but I have one remaining nit-picky issue. 
Going back to the original example of the remote user: when the user is in
the
office, they are connected to the network via their Ethernet port which
certainly has a MAC address.  However, when they're dialed in from home, they
might be using a modem which certainly does not have a MAC address.  Is the
H.323 application (whatever it may be, SoftPhone or whatever) smart enough to
send the Ethernet port's MAC address even though it's not being used in a
dial-in situation?  If not, how does CallManager learn the user's MAC
address?

Thanks,

BJ



On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 11:20:39 GMT Vitaliy Vishnevskiy 
wrote:

> Yes, call manager cares a great deal about mac
> addresses.  When a phone
> boots, it pulls its config from a TFTP server
> (learned through dhcp or
> statically).  The phone configuration file is
> generated when the phone
> mac address (along with other stuff) is entered
> into call manager
> database.  The phone can be anywhere and have
> any ip address.  The mac
> address flows the phone and so does the
> directory number.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: VoIP Clarification. [7:55682]
> 
> Great answer. Finally an explanation that makes
> sense for the marketing
> babble about IP Telephony making Moves, Adds,
> and Changes easier. ;-)
> 
> One quesiton though, does CallManager really
> care about MAC addresses?
> Unless the receiving phone is on the same
> network segment as the calling
> phone, the MAC address won't help matters. ARP
> would take care of
> getting
> the MAC when it's needed.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> 
> Bruce Enders wrote:
> > 
> > B. J.
> > The only trick here is to remember that the
> User phone number
> > "1111" is
> > "mapped" to the MAC address and IP address of
> the ethernet
> > interface
> > associated with the hard phone, or the laptop
> in the case of
> > Softphone.
> > (Both are PCs running specific applications
> software). Whenever
> > either is
> > disconnected from the network long enough for
> link to drop,
> > they have to
> > check in with DHCP when they are re-connected
> to the network.
> > Both also
> > have to check in with their CallManager.
> During that process,
> > they
> > identify themselves using their MAC address,
> and announce their
> > current
> > IP address. After that, the CM can simply
> forward based on the
> > IP
> > address. This capability is one of the
> primary reasons that
> > Moves, Adds,
> > and Changes in an IP Telephony system are far
> more simple than
> > in a
> > legacy PBX environment. (The logic behind
> your response sounds
> > like it
> > comes from the legacy telephone world, which
> is very used to
> > working in a
> > very static addressing environment).
> > Bruce
> > 
> > B.J. Wilson wrote:
> > 
> >   Hi Vance -
> >   
> >       I too am studying All Things VoIP, and
> I'm curious how
> > this would work.
> >   Say you have User A trying to call User B. 
> User B is
> > currently in the
> >   office.  So User A dials '1111' which is
> User B's phone
> > number (or "route
> >   pattern" if you want to be specific). 
> CallManager picks up
> > the route
> >   pattern, looks up User B's location, and
> forwards the call
> > on.  All is good.
> >       Now, say User B is telecommuting.  How
> does CallManager
> > know this?  How
> >   does your RAS (remote access) server notify
> CM that User B's
> > geographical
> >   location has moved?  Is there something in
> User B's RAS
> > (Registration,
> >   Admission and Status) setup that alerts CM
> to the fact that
> > they're dialing
> >   in from home?
> >   
> >       Thanks,
> >   
> >       BJ
> >   
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: "Vance Krier" 
> >   To: 
> >   Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 4:08 AM
> >   Subject: Re: VoIP Clarification. [7:55682]
> > 
> >     Hey Stu,
> >     
> >     In simple terms, yes you are correct. 
> However, as I'm sure
> > you know, you
> >     need to take this type of setup with a
> grain of salt.  If
> > you have a
> > 
> >   decent
> > 
> >     bandwidth, low latency, consistent
> connection between the
> > phone and CM, it
> >     works fine.   There's absolutely no
> guarantees for QoS on
> > the Internet.
> >     Now, FWIW, I use softphone on my laptop
> when I travel and
> > I've gotten
> >     satisfactory results (IMO) better than
> 75% of the time.
> >     
> >     I always pitch this as being a *kewl*
> feature, but never as
> > a selling
> > 
> >   point.
> > 
> >     I'm
> >     very, very cautious with customers over
> this.  As long as
> > the user
> >     using it is understanding and realizes
> there will be times
> > when it doesn't
> >     work or the quality is really crappy,
> then typically they
> > stay happy.  Not
> >     something I'd give to
> Internet/computer/technology
> > illiterate executive.
> >     
> >     I love it, by the way.
> >     
> >     Good luck,
> >     Vance
> > 
> >     ""Stuart Pittwood""  wrote in message   
> > news:200210160746.HAA10542@;groupstudy.com   
> ...
> > 
> >       Good Morning all,
> >       
> >       I am just starting to look into VoIP as
> I have been asked
> > by my manager
> > 
> >   to
> > 
> >       do some research and find out if there
> are any benifits
> > from VoIP for
> > 
> >   our
> > 
> >       firm.
> >       
> >       Am I right in saying that if we had a
> solution based on
> > Cat 6000 (or
> >       similar) switches, with a cisco VPN
> solution for the home
> > workers, that
> >       users who use their laptop at home with
> cisco softphone
> > or hardware
> > 
> >   phone
> > 
> >       could have their telephone extenstion
> follow them?
> >       
> >       Please forgive the simplicity of my
> question, just making
> > sure I am
> > 
> >     thinking
> > 
> >       along the right lines.
> >       
> >       Thanks
> >       
> >       Stu
> > -- 
> > 
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