I'll open a TAC case to have other names supported...

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
San Jose Transport
Cisco Systems Inc.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Subnet question [7:60711]
>
>
> Larry Letterman wrote:
> >
> > thats pris's job here....if she writes enough detailed
> > answers we dont have to buy her books...:)
>
> Oh no!
>
> By the way, the only nicknames that are supported are Cilla, PO, (and Cil,
> if you are Chuck.) Nicknames that map to "sissified" have been deprecated.
> The preferred name is my canonical name, Priscilla. :-)
>
> >
> > Larry Letterman
> > Network Engineer
> > San Jose Transport
> > Cisco Systems Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Tamhankar, Nitin
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:18 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Subnet question [7:60711]
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for taking pains to right such a detailed
> > explanation.
> > > Thank you all for your answers they were very helpful.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Nitin
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:36 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Subnet question [7:60711]
> > >
> > >
> > > You may not need virtual LANs. Real LANs solve the problem.
> > :-) This is a
> > > classic case of subnetting.
> > >
> > > With DHCP, the client should get the right address when it
> > > broadcasts after
> > > it moves, so there's no issue.
> > >
> > > Leaving DHCP out of the picture, the need to ensure that a
> > moved
> > > node can't
> > > communicate is met simply by the way IP works.
> > >
> > > Assume there's a client with this config:
> > >
> > > address = 100.10.1.100
> > > subnet mask = 255.255.255.0
> > > default gateway = 100.10.1.1
> > >
> > > Assume the client is physically sitting on the 100.10.2.0/24
> > network. When
> > > it wants to send to nodes on the 100.10.1.0 network, it will
> > compare its
> > > address with the destination address, assume it's on the same
> > subnet, and
> > > send an ARP broadcast. The ARP broadcast won't reach the
> > > destination though,
> > > which is on a different LAN, so it won't work.
> > >
> > > (Make sure the router isn't configured for Proxy ARP. But
> > even with Proxy
> > > ARP, communication won't work. With Proxy ARP, the router
> > could respond on
> > > behalf of the destination on the 100.10.1.0 network. However
> > that host
> > > wouldn't be able to respond because it would assume that
> > 100.10.1.1 is
> > > local.)
> > >
> > > Assume the client wishes to reach devices on the 100.10.2.0
> > or 100.10.3.0
> > > network. It will compare its address with the destination
> > address
> > > and decide
> > > that it's not on the same subnet, so it needs to send to the
> > default
> > > gateway. It will send a broadcast for the default gateway,
> > which
> > > won't work
> > > because 10.10.1.1 is on a different LAN. Once again make sure
> > Proxy ARP is
> > > disabled. I'll leave it to the reader to figure out what
> > would happen in
> > > this case if Proxy ARP were enabled. :-)
> > >
> > > The question of VLANs versus real LANs requires more info.
> > How many router
> > > ports to you have? Is each router port a subnet? Or do you
> > plan to have
> > > multiple subnets out one router port, in which case you need
> > VLANs and
> > > inter-VLAN routing on the router.
> > >
> > > _______________________________
> > >
> > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
> > > www.priscilla.com
> > >
> > > Nathan Nakao wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'd probably use VLAN's.
> > > >
> > > > Conf t
> > > > Int vlan 101
> > > > Int vlan 102
> > > > Int vlan 103
> > > >
> > > > Then setup the DHCP to assign IP addresses accordingly.
> > > >
> > > > Once that is done. Set the vlans to 101 for first floor, 102
> > > > for second
> > > > floor, and 103 for third floor.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > On
> > > > Behalf Of
> > > > Tamhankar, Nitin
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:40 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Subnet question [7:60711]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This might be a very elementary question for some of you
> > guys
> > > > but I
> > > > would appreciate the answer.
> > > >
> > > > If an office which has 3 different floors and has Cisco
> > routers
> > > > and
> > > > catalyst switches and windows environment. We need to
> > configure
> > > > it in
> > > > such a way that each floor is on its own subnet for example
> > > >
> > > > floor1   100.10.1.0
> > > > floor2   100.10.2.0
> > > > floor3   100.10.3.0
> > > >
> > > > Also if a computer which has IP address in subnet
> > 100.10.1.0 is
> > > > moved
> > > > from floor 1 to floor 2, it should not communicate with the
> > > > network
> > > > unless its IP address is changed to one in 100.10.2.0
> > subnet.
> > > >
> > > > How it can be accomplished?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > > Nitin
> > > >
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