Steven A. Ridder wrote:
> 
> Thanks!  I was just curious.  What about L2 headers in Frame
> Relay
> Fragmentation (frf.12)?

They probably stay the same? The FR header doesn't have much in it, but what
it does have should be in each fragment, I would think. But I'm not sure on
that one. That's one we can't just look up in an RFC...

Gotta run. You could repost this as a new message so others notice it!? :-)

Priscilla


> 
> 
> ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in
> message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Steven A. Ridder wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if a packet is fragmented, that the
> specific
> > > values in a
> > > field are replicated across all headers of the fragmented
> > > packets, or just
> > > the first one?
> > >
> > > Meaning, if I have a packet that has IP Prec 5, and a router
> > > along the way
> > > has to fragment the packet, would it be so kind as to put IP
> > > Prec on all the
> > > headers?
> >
> > Yes, it should. Per RFC 791, a router (or gateway as the RFC
> calls it)
> > copies the contents of the header fields from the original
> datagram into
> the
> > new headers of all the fragments. Of course, the following
> fields may
> > change, however:
> >
> >       (1) options field
> >       (2) more fragments flag
> >       (3) fragment offset
> >       (4) internet header length field
> >       (5) total length field
> >       (6) header checksum
> >
> > Also, with the options field, options may or may not be
> copied into each
> > fragment. There's a bit that the sender can set saying
> whether they must
> be
> > or not. But in general, all bits and bytes are copied into
> each fragment
> IP
> > header.
> >
> > Prscilla
> >
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in
> > > message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Mossburg, Geoff (MAN-Corporate) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for clearing that up;
> > > >
> > > > No problem.
> > > >
> > > > > I don't mind being told I'm
> > > > > mistaken. I
> > > > > recently decided that the only way I'm really going to
> learn
> > > > > from this group
> > > > > is to take a chance on confirming what I THINK I know,
> and
> > > > > asking questions
> > > > > about what I DON'T know. :) A lesson in humility, to be
> > > sure.
> > > >
> > > > I know what you mean. I like to pretend to be an uber
> goddess
> > > of all
> > > things
> > > > tech, but to learn, I have to admit to lots of
> cluelessness
> > > in some areas.
> > > > It can be a bit painful, but definitely worth it! :-)
> > > >
> > > > Priscilla
> > > >
> > > > > GM
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 5:35 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: fragmentation question [7:60643]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mossburg, Geoff (MAN-Corporate) wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Someone correct me if I'm wrong:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, you're wrong. :-) Look it up or use a protocol
> analzyer.
> > > > >
> > > > > > All the "fragments" have the TCP/UDP/IP headers, or
> else
> > > they
> > > > > > can't be
> > > > > > routed to their destination.
> > > > >
> > > > > Routing to their destination just requires the IP
> header,
> > > which
> > > > > is in each
> > > > > fragment. The TCP or UDP headers are not in the
> fragments,
> > > past
> > > > > the first
> > > > > one. The IP layer at the end device puts it all back
> > > together
> > > > > and hands the
> > > > > packet to the TCP or UDP layer. TCP or UDP get the full
> > > packet
> > > > > and can
> > > > > "route" it to the correct process, based on the
> destination
> > > > > port number.
> > > > >
> > > > > > "Fragmentation" is just a way of breaking up the data
> > > payload
> > > > > > into smaller
> > > > >
> > > > > Data payload from IP's point of view.
> > > > >
> > > > > > packets, but it puts individual headers on each
> packet.
> > > > > > MTU is the total size of each packet, including the
> > > header.
> > > > >
> > > > > The term isn't always used that way, though.
> > > > >
> > > > > > GM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Paul Dong So [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:19 PM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: fragmentation question [7:60643]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please shed a light on this as I am confused.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fragmentation for UDP/TCP:
> > > > > >  * Only the first fragment contains the UDP or TCP
> > > header, not
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > sequencial fragments?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fragementation for IP packets
> > > > > >  * every fragmented packet will contains ip header?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MTU 1500 bytes, doesn't it mean the data payload can
> not
> > > > > exceed
> > > > > > 1500
> > > > > > bytes or the whole packet size(payload+header) can not
> > > exceed
> > > > > > 1500
> > > > > > bytes?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul
> 
> 




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