There was some off line discussion earlier today about an attempted post
asking about CCIE study materials, in particular vendors of practice labs. I
don't see that particular post in the list today, so I'm going to assume
that the decision was made not to allow it. And I am going to rant a bit
about this and the topic of posting questions like "which study materials,
which books, which practice labs are best for whatever?"

Having been a regular participant on this news group for over three years
now, I, like many here, have seen these same questions over and over. As the
off line discussion went - maybe we should tell whomever just to go search
the archives.

My rant is this - maybe I'm cynical, and maybe I've seen all the same
questions over an over, but dammit, this newsgroup was started to help
people prepare for certifications, and dammit just because I or anyone else
has seen the same questions over an over doesn't mean that everyone else
has. These topics should be permitted, should be discussed, and names should
be named.

I appreciate the concern about commercial posts. I appreciate that there
have been a couple of people who have footers advertising all of their
business ventures, and will regularly post "that's right" answers to other
posts just to get their products and services out in front of this group.

I appreciate that folks like Howard and Priscilla also have books and other
things to sell, but are welcome here because of their unselfish
participation, and unselfish helpfulness.

I appreciate that there are other sources of study materials and rent a rack
time than those whose names come up regularly here and over on the CCIE
list.

I appreciate that some of the purveyors of books and study materials don't
bother participating on this forum, but that does not in and of itself say
anything about the value of their products or services. I think a forum like
this is an appropriate avenue to discuss the options out there.

While I personally don't care for a lot of the "what's best" questions
because I think they beg he issue and really miss the point, I do think that
the purpose of this news list remains exchange of information and advice to
those who ask and from those willing to offer.

I will finish this "anti rant" with two thoughts.

1) it's up to the participants here to determine how they want things to go.
If people don't want to read posts about "what's best" they are certainly
free to ignore them. If they can offer advice, I believe people should be
free to offer it. I certainly think people should be free to ask. I also
think that vendors should not be sneaking in here under false names and
false pretenses asking people to comment on their product.

2) in the end, I don't believe that any of the books or classes or practice
labs are better than any others in terms of preparing people for certs,
particularly for the CCIE Lab. It is more important to read a lot, study a
lot, practice a lot. Sorry to all of the purveyors of study materials for
saying it, but the key is practice with lots of different situations, not
practice with one vendor or another.

Presented for your consideration.

Chuck
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"there ain't no such thing as a free lunch"




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