Just curious, but didn't this all start when a couple of vendors got into a pissing match over on the CCIE Lab list back when?
----- Original Message ----- From: "The Long and Winding Road" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:21 PM Subject: CCIE Study Materials - Anti-Rant [7:62930] > There was some off line discussion earlier today about an attempted post > asking about CCIE study materials, in particular vendors of practice labs. I > don't see that particular post in the list today, so I'm going to assume > that the decision was made not to allow it. And I am going to rant a bit > about this and the topic of posting questions like "which study materials, > which books, which practice labs are best for whatever?" > > Having been a regular participant on this news group for over three years > now, I, like many here, have seen these same questions over and over. As the > off line discussion went - maybe we should tell whomever just to go search > the archives. > > My rant is this - maybe I'm cynical, and maybe I've seen all the same > questions over an over, but dammit, this newsgroup was started to help > people prepare for certifications, and dammit just because I or anyone else > has seen the same questions over an over doesn't mean that everyone else > has. These topics should be permitted, should be discussed, and names should > be named. > > I appreciate the concern about commercial posts. I appreciate that there > have been a couple of people who have footers advertising all of their > business ventures, and will regularly post "that's right" answers to other > posts just to get their products and services out in front of this group. > > I appreciate that folks like Howard and Priscilla also have books and other > things to sell, but are welcome here because of their unselfish > participation, and unselfish helpfulness. > > I appreciate that there are other sources of study materials and rent a rack > time than those whose names come up regularly here and over on the CCIE > list. > > I appreciate that some of the purveyors of books and study materials don't > bother participating on this forum, but that does not in and of itself say > anything about the value of their products or services. I think a forum like > this is an appropriate avenue to discuss the options out there. > > While I personally don't care for a lot of the "what's best" questions > because I think they beg he issue and really miss the point, I do think that > the purpose of this news list remains exchange of information and advice to > those who ask and from those willing to offer. > > I will finish this "anti rant" with two thoughts. > > 1) it's up to the participants here to determine how they want things to go. > If people don't want to read posts about "what's best" they are certainly > free to ignore them. If they can offer advice, I believe people should be > free to offer it. I certainly think people should be free to ask. I also > think that vendors should not be sneaking in here under false names and > false pretenses asking people to comment on their product. > > 2) in the end, I don't believe that any of the books or classes or practice > labs are better than any others in terms of preparing people for certs, > particularly for the CCIE Lab. It is more important to read a lot, study a > lot, practice a lot. Sorry to all of the purveyors of study materials for > saying it, but the key is practice with lots of different situations, not > practice with one vendor or another. > > Presented for your consideration. > > Chuck > -------- > TANSTAAFL > "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=62944&t=62930 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]