I see what you're after now. yes you can do this. the adapters are the trick
here.

cisco will use a rollover cable to essentially pair wire 1 on one end to
wire 8 on the other end (2 to 7, 3 to 6, etc...). in theory what this does
is reverses the the Tx and the Rx and the other corresponding wires for flow
control and modem control. the adapter then comes in for when you plug it in
to the interface. for example if I have a eia-232 configuration, then my
adapter will have to be wired correctly to place the correct pin from the
adapter to the correct wire on the rollover cable. same thing can be said if
I have a v.35 cable, I need to have the adapter connect the Tx pin to the Tx
wire of the cable. this is why cisco advertises their db-60 interface as
being 5-in-1, because depending on how the pins match the wire, they have 5
different specifications possible(one being eia-232)

now sticking to eia-232, the specification calls for 8 pins, which is
perfect for 8-wire cable and thus why cisco uses it for all their modular
console ports. now the adapters come into play. the adapters can serve one
of two purposes, 1) straight-through or 2)rollover.

if the cable you use is a rollover, well then the wires have already turned
the Tx into a Rx wire and thus your adapter needs to be straight-through to
accomplish having the ends stay Tx to Rx.
if the cable you use is straight, well then the wires are Tx to Tx and thus
you'll need an adapter to change the Tx to the Rx.

now heres the kicker and the reason I suspect you're having problems. this
whole discussion of Tx going to a Rx end-to-end depends on the fact that the
console port of a router (or a CSS) is a DTE and your PC serial port is a
DTE and thus needs to be rolled-over. on the other hand some older cisco
equipment had their console ports configured as DCEs, which might very well
be you case.

so what to do? put the adapter onto your computers serial port, plug the
cisco rollover cable into it and then right into the console port of your
css. if it works you're done, if not get a standard straight-through cat5
cable to use instead of the cisco rollover, that one will then work.


""Sam Sneed""  wrote in message
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> When i plug rollover cable that i use for routers into routers console it
> works. When I plug it into CSS11152 console it doesn't work When I use the
> CS11152 adapter on rollover it does work. What I'm trying to figure out is
> what do I have to do to a cat5 cable to make it work without the CSS11152
> adapter.
>
> ""Scott Roberts""  wrote in message
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> > hopefully this time priscilla doesn't chastise me for helping out with
CCO
> > material!! ;)
> >
> > the link you supplied clearly states that its 9600 baud & rs-232 and the
> > table below it doesn't say anything in regards to pinouts for any
console
> > port. the "rs-232" specification IS the pinout specification.
> >
> > CSS 11050 Front Panel Connectors and LEDs
> > All front panels of the CSS 11050 models contain connectors and LEDs
that
> > vary according to their model number. For example, the CSS 11051 in
Figure
> > 2-3 has:
> >
> >   a.. 1 RS-232 Console connector (9600 baud)
> >
> >
> >   b.. 1 RS-232 Diag connector, reserved for field service use only
> (115,200
> > baud)
> >
> >
> >   c.. 8 10/100-Mbps auto-sensing Fast Ethernet connectors and their
> > associated Link/Activity status, 10/100 (Mbps), and Duplex (Half or
Full)
> > LEDs
> >
> >
> >   d.. Power, Status, and Ready LEDs
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Sam Sneed""  wrote in message
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> > > Actually its not. You need a special adapter to console into these
> > switches.
> > > They come with them but I only have 1, I need 4. On Cisco's site they
> have
> > > the following but it looks like a typo
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/contnetw/ps792/products_installation_
> > > guide_chapter09186a00800df9d6.html#xtocid3
> > >
> > >  if you look at the table they RXD and DSR both going to to pin 3.
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Scott Roberts""  wrote in message
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> > > > the console port is identical to every other cisco router (eia-232,
> 9600
> > > > baud).
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/accessor/ps107/products_tech_note0918
> > > > 6a0080094ce6.shtml
> > > >
> > > > scott
> > > >
> > > > ""Sam Sneed""  wrote in message
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> > > > > Has anyone done this before? I have a few CSS but don't have the
> > > adapters
> > > > > for console ports. I'm hoping I can create my own cable using
cat5.
> If
> > > > > someone could enlighten me on how to do this that'd be great.
> Thanks.




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