On Mar 22, 2005, at 9:43 AM, BitFuzzy wrote:
Bart Silverstrim wrote:
Personally, my gripe is that the product is called ClamAV. If it's expanding it's mission to protect people from everything called "malware", I'd change the name to something that indicates it's a malware detector and not a virus detector. Phishing scams are *not* viruses. Maybe change it's name to ClaMal. It'll make the O'Reilly book cover look interesting, too.
But this would probably never happen. *shrug*
I can't believe this is still going on! This got old "fast" the last time it was discussed.
This isn't about detecting messages concerning Viagra, or getting 27,000,000 by helping some yutz in Nigeria.
The way I see it, any item regardless of it's delivery method that has the potential to do harm financially or otherwise should be stopped (IMHO) by the AV.
These messages are running out of control. They are clever, and when used in conjunction with their associated websites are very hard to identify it from the real thing.
ClamAV isn't the only agent that detects "Phishing" attempts. Mcafee, PcCillin, etc detect these attempts why would anyone expect ClamAV to do less
I may be thinking of something else here, but if memory serves the dev team will be providing a method for you (or anyone) not wanting these detected, to disable it.
and with that the debate should be ended.
Please, calm down. I wasn't arguing one thing or the other. I just expressed an opinion. Why should it be that just because you don't like to hear the opinion that anyone who shares it must "shut up", when this list is monitored by people who may or may not want feedback from the users? You're implying that I should shut up with my opinion then you go on to express your own. Geez.
I wasn't even saying disable it. I had said, consistent with the participation in the past mail list war, that if ClamAV were going to start detecting non-virus attacks and stop things that were aimed at people who should generally know better by now than to fall for scammers and baiters, then it would be better aesthetically if you didn't advertise as an anti-VIRUS and instead as an anti-MALWARE program, as that is what it was migrating it's role to. Saying the neighbors are doing the same thing doesn't help either, since I've griped about that as well. If you're a malware detector, do the search engines a favor and advertise the program as such. It's bad enough that people are sloppy with terminology and concepts go way over users heads without making it worse by contributing to the fuzzy definitions.
No debate. Opinion. As I also stated in the past it's ultimately up to the developers. Getting a bug up your butt about it will only give you a stroke or heart attack. I'm not a developer and lack the skill to fork the project and even if I could, I lack the resources to host it...so I use what the developers offer. They do a very good job in the first place. Doesn't mean I don't differ in opinion once in awhile with how things are done, but oh well!
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