At the risk of being unpopular… 😊

I think there are quite a few people who _say_ that it’s an obstacle to their 
contributing to Clojure or to a Contrib library but in reality they wouldn’t 
actually contribute anyway, so it becomes an excuse.

For example, I’ve seen many people over the years complain about needing to 
sign a CA and submit a patch in order to update the documentation that is part 
of a project. Years ago, I moved all the documentation for clojure.java.jdbc 
off to clojure-doc.org where anyone can create issues and submit PRs because 
it’s “just” a GitHub project. Despite removing all the supposed “barriers to 
entry”, there have been almost zero community contributions of any sort to that 
documentation (with one recent exception: huge thank you to ehashman for some 
great work submitted recently!).

A lot of big, well-known FOSS projects require a signed CA and have very 
specific contributing processes. Either folks will contribute or they won’t. I 
find it hard to believe that nREPL will suddenly get a stream of contributions 
that it wouldn’t get if it continues as a Contrib project. Hundreds of people 
have signed CAs on file – there’s a good pool of people who could, easily, 
contribute to nREPL already.

Forking, renaming, and rebooting a fundamental bedrock project like nREPL could 
be very risky, and could cause a lot of pain/churn for a lot of Clojure users 
out there.

(or of course you could all prove me wrong and it might be a painless 
transition and nREPL might flourish in ways none of us could possibly have 
imagined so far…)

Sean Corfield -- (970) FOR-SEAN -- (904) 302-SEAN
An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/

"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
-- Margaret Atwood

From: Didier<mailto:didi...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 9:43 PM
To: Clojure<mailto:clojure@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Migrating nREPL out of Clojure Contrib

So do we have any idea of contributions are not made because of the CA or Jira?

I understand it's hard to estimate how many people were discouraged by this. 
Maybe it should be part of the Clojure survey nexr time.

Were you ever discouraged to contribute to a Contrib lib because of Jira?

Were you ever discouraged to contribute to a Contrib lib because of the CA?

I feel like without more data into these, it's only speculative that changes to 
nRepl would result in more active contributions from the community.

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