On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Laurent PETIT <laurent.pe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > 2010/12/20 Ken Wesson <kwess...@gmail.com> >> >> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Tim Daly <d...@axiom-developer.org> >> wrote: >> > On 12/19/2010 10:53 PM, Ken Wesson wrote: >> >> Ah. So, like the confused situations you get with Java's mutable >> >> collections. Two lists are equal if they have the same contents in the >> >> same order -- but then you use one as a key in a hashmap, and then add >> >> an item to it, and boom! Clojure separates this stuff out because the >> >> Clojure vector's immutability makes its value stable given its >> >> identity. Refs and atoms and agents can encapsulate mutable state, but >> >> their identity (as defined by = and hash) is fixed rather than >> >> changing with its state. And some objects (keywords and symbols) exist >> >> to be almost pure identity, used to label other things. >> >> >> >> Something like that? >> > >> > Ummm. no. You're approaching the question in an OO mindset. >> >> Excuse me? How rude. In the future if you'd like to offer a criticism >> of my mindset you can do it off-list! >> >> > Rich spent the better part of an hour trying to explain the >> > insights that he got from what must certainly be months of >> > reading and thinking. >> >> I don't have the better part of an hour, let alone months. > > Ken, with all the respect which is due to you, if you're out of ideas to > find some time reading the linked material, you could probably re-focus > *some* of the time you spend sometimes debating (arguing) at lengths (lots > of brower pages in my 1024x768 laptop) in this list to see/read/watch the > material you're critical about.
Sorry, things are a little hectic around here right now. > And if you don't like videos or pdfs, you can certainly find a way to say so > without being rude to the people which (still) take the time to answer you. I'm not trying to be rude. I just thought it hilarious that after I specifically objected to videos partly on bandwidth grounds, partly on have-to-use-a-proprietary-browser-plugin grounds, and etc., someone suggested a pdf as a substitute. You have to admit that that IS kind of funny. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
