Simpler solution: Don't feed the trolls. We know who they are.

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Jay Fields <j...@jayfields.com> wrote:
> I was involved with Ruby and Rails in the early days. The Ruby mailing lists 
> / conferences were always kind / helpful and the Rails lists / confs were 
> always hit and miss. There were plenty of great Rails people, and enough 
> jerks to upset anyone.
>
> I read this (Clojure) google group pretty frequently awhile ago, but took 
> several months off. I returned a week ago and after the first day I emailed 
> Stu H. And said: Is <name withheld> one of the leaders of the community now? 
> He seems really abrasive.
>
> Having been through this before I'd recommend a few things.
>
> - individually,
> -- reword responses from: "why would you do that" to "I prefer my solution 
> because...". "that's not functional and it's ugly!" to "I believe my solution 
> is more in-line with FP style" etc. The trick is to focus on what you are 
> looking for (and the positives of the idea) instead of attacking someone 
> else's solution.
> -- in niche communities, once you're labeled as a jerk, you're in trouble. 
> People won't work with you. People won't answer your questions. And, people 
> (often unfairly) assume you are wrong, simply because they don't like you. 
> You can deal with this in a large (mostly anonymous) community. In a small 
> community it's career limiting.
>
> - community
> -- it might be worth coming up with a few basic rules and removing people who 
> can't follow them. Obviously, this isn't an easy task, but it might be worth 
> the effort.
>
> Also, what happened to Rich? It seems like many wasteful discussions could be 
> more easily put to bed by his response instead of the current "here's a video 
> of Rich from a year ago" or "here's a link to something Rich wrote in the 
> past"
>
> Or, maybe I'm oversensitive and things are fine.
>
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