This is an interesting discussion. Rich Hickey and Steve Yegge recently
weighed in on the Seajure discussion group (and later discussed on HN).
Yegge basically takes Laszlo's position (clojure needs to start saying yes),
while Hickey takes Nick's position.

   - http://groups.google.com/group/seajure/msg/2d2ec7ac9f2b4713
   - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2466731
   - https://groups.google.com/group/seajure/msg/daa02d326a9ec69a


I think it's an interesting point of contention. Hickey has done a brilliant
job of building a very elegant functional language. But should we dismiss
Yegge's point altogether? He's not the only one making it. Technomancy has
complained that...
    *> Many patches etc run afoul of that because they don't meet that
standard.*
    *The problem is not that they aren't applied, it's that they are ignored
without discussion of their faults*

Now, I don't want to reduce the conversation to gossip. But what IS the
right balance between proper idiomatic code, and tools and training wheels
for broader acceptance?


Tim Washington
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On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Nick Zbinden <nick...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Coming up with a clojure stack is not really clojury. I think clojure
> does not really lack far behind scala/akka and its much simpler.
>
> I don't really know about IDEs I can see how that could be a problem.
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