On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 23:10 +0100, Dennis Haupt wrote:
> Am 17.01.2012 22:46, schrieb James Reeves:
> > On 17 January 2012 20:46, Dennis Haupt <d.haup...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> i've noticed this since i started to work as a programmer 10 years ago.
> >> programmers in general are supposed to be good at finding simple
> >> solutions, but my experience is: they are not. on the contrary, many
> >> suffer from their individual tunnel visions without being aware of it.
> >> to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
> > 
> > To borrow from Stuart Halloway: simplicity ain't easy.
> > 
> > The example solutions you provide from non-programmers seem
> > straightforward, but that's because they're instructions designed to
> > be followed by a human being, who can infer and reason, rather than a
> > programming language that is constructed around the idea of precise
> > commands.
> > 
> > For instance, "you just make pairs" hides a considerable amount of
> > depth. How do you make pairs? You might select one number, then look
> > for another number that is identical, but how do you ensure you don't
> > pick the same number?
> > 
> > Or what about "count how often a number is in the list". Again, it
> > seems a simple thing to do, but only if you're giving instructions to
> > a human. In programming there are many additional questions, like
> > where to store the numbers whilst you're counting them. Do you go
> > through the whole list for each number, or do you go through the list
> > once and keep a tally? If you keep a tally, which data structure
> > should be used to implement this?
> 
> in the end, the program must work down to the lowest level and there
> cannot be unanswered questions. but take a look at the 3 solutions given
> until now. in 2 cases, all i read is "do this, then that, i don't care
> how". in the third, a hashset was picked. but it didn't have to be one.
> any non-map-collection type would have worked here.
> 
> > 
> > It's often a lot easier to find a complex solution to a problem than a
> > simple one. Simple solutions are hard work to find.
> 
> i'd say they require different strategies to find

On a completely different approach, have you seen Polya's book
"How to solve it"?

Tim Daly


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