On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:10:52 AM UTC+1, David Della Costa wrote:

> Patrik, Pierre, have you folks checked out the mock app that Chas 
> created in the test directory?  It's not going to give you everything 
> you're looking for but make it can help.  There is an implementation 
> of the OpenID workflow in there, including a credential-fn example: 
>
>
> https://github.com/cemerick/friend/blob/master/test/test_friend/mock_app.clj 
>
>
Been digesting that and reading the OpenID workflow + the openid2java docs 
to work out what inputs mean what. I'm not quite there yet but starting to 
have some idea, will experiment today to get auth with Google Account up 
and running.
 

> This may also help, regarding credential functions: 
>
>
> https://github.com/cemerick/friend/blob/master/test/test_friend/credentials.clj
>  
>
> I also highly recommend looking at the bcrypt-credential-fn in the 
> credentials.clj lib, in the src of the project itself: 
>
>
> https://github.com/cemerick/friend/blob/master/src/cemerick/friend/credentials.clj
>  
>
>
The credentials I grok more easily than the workflow - or more specifically 
the openid workflow. The form based auth workflow is a lot easier for me to 
follow, no probs there. That I find the openid workflow more obtuse 
probably means I don't get OpenID quite yet so will do some standard 
reading there as well.
 

> This is the default credentials function used in the mock app above, 
> so it should help illustrate some of the concepts.  I've spent a lot 
> of time poring over the code too, so feel free to ping me with 
> questions too, I may be able to help. 
>
> > IMHO the doc is really lacking and I have to say I was expecting more 
> > guidance in the code itself. 
>
> Yes, it's still hard to wrap your head around the docs.  Friend 
> scratches an itch I have, and I think it's going to be rather 
> important if people are trying to web apps quickly in Clojure, so I'm 
> going to keep working on it and see how much I can clean things up and 
> make concepts more clear.  And I know Chas is interested in this as 
> well, from his past comments.  Any help and pull requests are welcome. 
> ;-) 
>
> I'm working on some updates to everything I've been working on, I'll 
> post updates to the list shortly (later this week probably, maybe even 
> today). 
>
>
Agreed. Happy to contribute a working google acc openid auth once I get 
there.

Patrik
 

> DD 
>
> 2012/10/24 Pierre R <p.rade...@gmail.com <javascript:>>: 
> > Thanks David for the extra doc. 
> > 
> > I have had a try with OpenID. Everything works kind of expected. 
> > 
> > I had a question about "302 redirection prior to authentication" that I 
> > posted on github. 
> > 
> > Another question is how to link the concept of roles with the openid 
> > credentials. 
> > 
> > IMHO the doc is really lacking and I have to say I was expecting more 
> > guidance in the code itself. 
> > 
> > I guess a lot of stuff obvious to an experienced clojure developers are 
> > still dark magic to me. 
> > 
> > In particular it is rather difficult to understand how to write a 
> > crendential-fn and this link won't help you ;-) 
> > https://github.com/cemerick/friend/blob/master/docs/credentials.md 
> > 
> > For "OpenId" I have blindly used the identity function without much 
> > understanding ... 
> > 
> > I am using Friend to scratch a little auth server. Not sure it is the 
> best 
> > fit for that purpose. I will see. 
> > 
> > I hope Friend is going to be reviewed by an extended community of people 
> > much more qualified than myself to talk about such matter. 
> > 
> > Still docs could be improved and I believe helps could come from pull 
> > requests to suggest the addition of code comments there and there. 
> > 
> > If I dig far enough in the code, I would be pleased to help. 
> > 
> > Thanks for the hard work. 
> > 
> > Cheers, 
> > 
> > Le mardi 23 octobre 2012 17:50:25 UTC+2, Patrik Sundberg a écrit : 
> >> 
> >> These are great tutorials. Thanks for publishing. 
> >> 
> >> Right now I'm looking for something similar using the OpenID workflow. 
> I 
> >> see it's there but how I use to for example create a "sign in with 
> google" 
> >> setup is less clear to me. 
> >> 
> >> Has anyone got a good OpenID example out there somewhere? 
> >> 
> >> On Saturday, October 6, 2012 4:50:05 PM UTC+1, David Della Costa wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Hi folks, 
> >>> 
> >>> I've been pretty slack in communicating via the mailing list, but I 
> >>> realized today that there is a lot of important dialogue going on here 
> >>> so I have to make more of an effort to take part--I want to be a part 
> of 
> >>> this community! 
> >>> 
> >>> In any case, I've been using Friend a lot lately, since I come from 
> >>> Ruby-on-Rails-land, and it addresses a lot of the pain points that 
> >>> Devise does for me. 
> >>> 
> >>> But (as has been mentioned in other threads quite recently), 
> >>> documentation is definitely the Clojure community's week point: it's 
> >>> inconsistent, formatted inconsistently (Ring and Compojure, for 
> example, 
> >>> are wonderful exceptions), and updated erratically.  When it's good, 
> >>> it's great; but when it's not, it puts me off from using a library. 
>  For 
> >>> example, I stayed away from Enlive for months before I realized what a 
> >>> useful library it is--so I re-wrote the README to suit my tastes 
> >>> (https://github.com/ddellacosta/enlive). 
> >>> 
> >>> I think Chas Emerick writes much better docs than much of what 
> >>> accompanies most Clojure libraries, but he's quite an advanced Clojure 
> >>> developer, and he's moving very fast--so as a newbie, I had difficulty 
> >>> even with his relatively good docs for Friend.  And I suspect you'll 
> be 
> >>> getting more and more folks from the web development world in the next 
> >>> few years like me.  So it will be good to have things from the 
> >>> perspective of someone not just trying to grok the libraries that 
> exist, 
> >>> but also trying to understand how Clojure works, and how the 
> eco-system 
> >>> fits together. 
> >>> 
> >>> I've written some material on how to use Friend, including some OAuth2 
> >>> resources.  I'd appreciate any feedback you can give, I'm pretty new 
> to 
> >>> Clojure (and Lisp in general). 
> >>> 
> >>> In any case: 
> >>> 
> >>> https://github.com/ddellacosta/friend-interactive-form-tutorial 
> >>> https://github.com/ddellacosta/friend-oauth2-examples 
> >>> https://github.com/ddellacosta/friend-oauth2 
> >>> 
> >>> I have a bunch of other Clojure-related stuff on my github account 
> too, 
> >>> feedback is most welcome! 
> >>> 
> >>> Cheers, 
> >>> DD 
> > 
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