I am using ':use' for my own namespaces.I know it's discouraged, but if i can control my own code,why not? Compiler can give me warnings and i process all warnings carefully.
2013/7/25 Steven Degutis <sbdegu...@gmail.com> > If our votes count for anything, then I'd like to add +1 for getting rid > of :use, and strongly discouraging :refer :all. > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Alex Baranosky < > alexander.barano...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> +1 for scary compiler deprecation warning for 1.6.0, then removing :use >> in the 1.7.0 release. >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Softaddicts <lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca >> > wrote: >> >>> I disagree, when I use tracing fns and other useful REPL tools, >>> I like to have them included without having to prefix them with an alias. >>> >>> It's not a hack it's a feature and you are free to use it or not. >>> If code writers do not care about code readers it's a choice, maybe bad >>> but >>> that decision is not yours to take. It's theirs in their own context. >>> >>> Now this thread has slowly shifted to "can we streamline how we express >>> this >>> feature" to "lets forbid this feature to be used". If ends up creating >>> such >>> "policies" enforced by the language, it's the wrong route. >>> >>> My answer to such proposals is a definite "no". This a red line to me >>> that should >>> not be crossed. >>> >>> Luc P. >>> >>> >>> > > I hate it mainly in blogs, where they explain some new API. They :use >>> > like 3 namespaces and you have to guess which fn is from which ns :) >>> > >>> > Agree. >>> > Code is read much more often than it is written, so omitting a few >>> > character is not effective time-saving. >>> > I also don't like :refer :all. >>> > I think it should be considered hack rather than official feature. >>> > >>> > On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:17:02 AM UTC+9, Jozef Wagner wrote: >>> > > >>> > > +1, :use is IMO an antipattern. >>> > > >>> > > I hate it mainly in blogs, where they explain some new API. They >>> :use like >>> > > 3 namespaces and you have to guess which fn is from which ns :) >>> > > >>> > > JW >>> > > >>> > > On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:50:50 PM UTC+2, Greg Slepak wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> I think I read somewhere that :use is no longer encouraged, but I >>> could >>> > >> be mistaken. >>> > >> >>> > >> From what I've read, it seems like most people agree that Clojure >>> has too >>> > >> many ways of including/importing/referencing/requiring/using things: >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> http://blog.8thlight.com/colin-jones/2010/12/05/clojure-libs-and-namespaces-require-use-import-and-ns.html >>> > >> >>> > >> The above gives a very nice explanation of all the various >>> difference, >>> > >> but it also acknowledges their complexity. >>> > >> >>> > >> Since :use uses :require, and since :require can do everything that >>> :use >>> > >> can, can we simplify Clojure programming a bit for newcomers by >>> deprecating >>> > >> the use of :use? The situation in ClojureScript is even worse >>> because it >>> > >> adds :require-macros on top of all the other ways of including >>> files. >>> > >> >>> > >> Ideally, it would be awesome if there was just a single directive >>> for >>> > >> everything, but perhaps there's some complicated low-level reason >>> why >>> > >> that's not possible. :-\ >>> > >> >>> > >> Thoughts? >>> > >> >>> > >> Thanks, >>> > >> Greg >>> > >> >>> > >> P.S. 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