" I have dozen colleagues that can't foster clojure because they want a
language with tools that fits every day."

Can you explain this statement? I'm not sure I understand. I haven't
touched any language but Clojure for "every day work" in months (years?). I
can write a game in Clojure, I can write swing/javafx apps if I want, I can
write webapps, I can write distributed systems, I can write high
performance code as well as "hack it out fast" code.

So far in my career as a software developer, I've learned, C, C++, QBasic,
VB, Delphi, Python, C#, Python, and Erlang. I left every single one of
those languages because at one point or another they restricted what I
could do with them. There came a day where I said "wow...if I could just do
X this would be so much simpler". That day hasn't come yet for me with
Clojure. Even after 4 years.

I'm not sure what these people want?

Timothy


On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Paulo Suzart <paulosuz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately I'm not a Stuart or a Emerick, or a Miller. So I can't
> really contribute to clojure that deep. I'm in the user /tech consumer
> side.
>
> That said, it is not my concern only. I have dozen colleagues that can't
> foster clojure because they want a language with tools that fits every day.
> Not tools for very specific cases that may come out if they work in a very
> specific company in a very specific country.
>
> I don't know, I still have all my coins on that. Really hope we can have
> almost pure clojure clojure solutions as we have pure java solutions.
>
> Thank you all for your opinions.
> On 19 Apr 2014 17:40, "Michael Klishin" <michael.s.klis...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> 2014-04-19 20:15 GMT+04:00 Paulo Suzart <paulosuz...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> People say clojure is good for data. But where are the cases? And more
>>> specifically, where are the frameworks and libs to support it? Are they
>>> talking about wrappers around java for Hadoop? Sigh...
>>
>>
>> I see lots of companies of all sizes use Clojure successfully for data
>> processing. The great thing about data
>> processing is that there are many ways to do it. Some use Cascalog, some
>> use libraries unrelated to Hadoop,
>> others use just Clojure. So while there may or may not be a single
>> "killer app" like Rails, Clojure is fantastic
>> at this particular group of problems, as demonstrated by companies from <
>> 10 to 10s of thousands of people.
>> --
>> MK
>>
>> http://github.com/michaelklishin
>> http://twitter.com/michaelklishin
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