I'm not disagreeing with you. When you're talking about a language, and
none of the papers specifically points to the language as a whole - that's
fine. But in the case of specific software packages/programs, I think it is
often better to cite a paper if it exists. For example, if I write a paper
that uses BEAST in an analysis, I'm going to cite the paper for BEAST, not
the BEAST website. But if I cite R, I'll cite the website (as running
`citation()` from the command line suggests I should).

However, I think you're generalizing a bit too strongly when it comes to
academic publications. For example, BEAST2 was published in an Open Access,
online only journal called PLoS (
http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pcbi.1003537).
No paper need apply, and all of the content is CC :-) That's not to say
that PLoS isn't an island of refuge in sea of ossified stodginess, or that
even it couldn't be better in ways. But it's not *all* so bad, and does
serve *some* purpose. Something to consider is this - citing a paper (if it
exists) could be more beneficial professionally for the authors of the
paper, as those things are (I think) tracked more closely.

Lastly, sometimes formats have publications. For example -
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0031009. I
don't know if Edn does or not though. I would just search around for one,
or cite the website if you don't find it.

Chris



On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Ben Wolfson <wolf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Phillip Lord <
> phillip.l...@newcastle.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> The idea that you can't cite websites is a conceit that ensures that
>> academics continue to spend a 1000s of pounds a paper on puplication
>> costs, when you can achieve much the same with a blog, some metadata and
>> archive.org.
>>
>> Ah, that was good, I feel better now!
>>
>
> The woes of academic publishing have nothing to do with the idea that you
> can't cite websites; MLA and Chicago style both have provisions for citing
> websites and I'm sure less widespread style guides do as well.
>
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