Yesyesyesyes! Great idea! I'm on it. On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 4:15 PM, A <aael...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please feel free to create something like http://www.clojure-toolbox.com/ > for data science in Clojure, that would be great. > > On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 3:33:11 PM UTC-7, Sayth Renshaw wrote: >> >> Would be good to get that on a wiki for all so we could update and share >> as a resourcee. >> >> Sayth >> >> On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 at 04:47 Christian Weilbach <white...@polyc0l0r.net> >> wrote: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> http://viewer.gorilla-repl.org/view.html?source=github&user= >>> ghubber&repo=cnc&path=rincanter.clj >>> >> I am not sure whether this fits the design atm. though. I also >>> >> had a look at renjin, but I think the native plugins mandate an >>> >> RVM integration atm. >>> >> >>> > >>> > You might find http://beakernotebook.com interesting, if you >>> > haven't seen it before. It allows several languages in the same >>> > notebook, and has a simple mechanism for sharing data between the >>> > language environments. It's pretty green at the moment, but it has >>> > some serious backing, so could be pretty useful once it's got a bit >>> > more polish on it. I chatted a little with someone who was hoping >>> > to implement a Clojure plugin for it, although I don't know how >>> > they've gotten on since. >>> >>> This is really nice, thank you for pointing out! Effectively though >>> this means you need to manually(!) convert data between all cells, >>> which only works if serialization between the environments is a lot >>> less work than processing the data and you don't want to call alien >>> procedures e.g. in a loop. It also means that part of datasets need to >>> be hold in memory in all runtimes at the same time. So I am not sure >>> whether JSON synchronisation of state between runtimes is good in the >>> long run, it feels fairly hacky and having that many runtimes already >>> causes a big type-conversion matrix and probably many subtle >>> incompatibilities. It is the most pragmatic approach though and >>> probably the most successful for now. >>> >>> They are not opinionated about languages, while I would like to >>> integrate data science tooling in Clojure, so it is easier to bring >>> people on board, not to make language hopping the top goal, which is >>> for mentioned performance reasons and from a Lisp/Clojure perspective >>> a bit questionable imo (esp. since all these languages have to drop to >>> C to get some performance). I also would like to have the environment >>> written in Clojure (read: gorilla). I would be happy to integrate >>> Python and R on the JVM, e.g. through Jython and RServe/renjin, which >>> allows to share code much better down to direct method dispatch. Do >>> you think integrating R cells in this way would be reasonable for you? >>> Or just allowing plugins for new cell-types... >>> (With RServe manual synchronisation with the RVM is still necessary >>> btw., renjin would solve this, but needs more support for CRAN >>> packages imho). >>> >>> > >>> > I also have taken a paper I liked and implemented a quick version >>> > of >>> > >>> >> SNE, which was fairly nice to do in Gorilla REPL: >>> >> >>> >> http://viewer.gorilla-repl.org/view.html?source=github&user= >>> ghubber&repo=cnc&path=stochastic-neighbour-embedding.clj >>> >> A problem seems to be unicode support, I tried to use some math >>> >> symbols from the notation in the paper directly, but the viewer >>> >> seems to have a problem with it. >>> >> >>> > >>> > Not sure what the problem is there - my feeling is it should just >>> > work, on the Gorilla side. If there's a test case you can point to >>> > (with an expected result) I can take a look at it. >>> >>> The problem is just that viewer.gorilla-repl.org seems to have some >>> encoding problems with UTF-8. See the sum sigma symbol for instance: >>> https://github.com/ghubber/cnc/blob/master/stochastic-neighb >>> our-embedding.clj#L72 >>> which is corrupted in the viewer. I hoped that was easy to fix. >>> >>> >>> Christian >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1 >>> >>> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVIYNTAAoJEKel+aujRZMk5wsIAIl/CoX0E7u6lSJIHQfWI8U5 >>> HZWUPjHJie+sbIt+G4qm8SozAbmPEc6mRSDC3kP1v2JhoJv4y1j6klWmHH9Xm3dj >>> eqxNgVTNClk5ZUUcAFhcy2gUCc9RP6AJF27TnSO+ArG4qApueU+s297uHTAfGefk >>> hj+AbzCGoQOgvw1F6sUOTQ4KV6Z51/pYsjIgxwPC5vvzIKgv+qiKXMWLow1mM9uu >>> tG4h/HDSxdjCWdVm4sCuipi5tJJmdYEuYHjtFiMVbpVA5YZT3KleL4K6Gn9nMu7u >>> vrw2YlZyE9mlKPbv4GRS3ANnVv45+e0yLuMMXV1OdlxwKqmvKosmk7k4K6jR8Pc= >>> =5QnK >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>> your first post. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/to >>> pic/clojure/vsjUlAWm64g/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/clojure/vsjUlAWm64g/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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