A scala native port is due to be announced soon. It would be interesting to see whats their approach and performance characteristics are:
http://www.scala-native.org/ Cheers, Aleksander On 26 April 2016 at 09:47, Mikera <mike.r.anderson...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would definitely second Tim's points. The JVM is very hard to beat once > you factor in the GC and JIT requirements. > > Worth noting that persistent data structures with structural sharing are > used pretty much ubiquitously in Clojure and that these are *exactly* the > kinds of data structures that benefit most from GC. > > An alternative scheme such as reference counting would perform extremely > badly in comparison because structural sharing implies a *lot* of reference > count updates, and writes to reference counts scattered across memory are > expensive on modern machines (especially in concurrent situations). > > On Tuesday, 26 April 2016 04:50:45 UTC+8, tbc++ wrote: >> >> As someone who has spent a fair amount of time playing around with such >> things, I'd have to say people vastly misjudge the raw speed you get from >> the JVM's JIT and GC. In fact, I'd challenge someone to come up with a >> general use, dynamic language that is not based on the JVM and comes even >> close to the speed of Clojure. >> >> A LLVM/C++/RPython based version of Clojure would on a good day come in >> at about 1/10 the speed of Clojure on the JVM for general use cases. >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Raoul Duke <rao...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> > The main motivation would be performance gains. >>> >>> blah? so many impedance mismatches and layers of indirection that i >>> don't think it will gain much? i mean, it would probably be better to >>> spend time tuning gc parameters or something. just a rant / guess. >>> e.g. robovm is for some use cases perfectly fine performance wise >>> believe it or not. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>> your first post. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> “One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that–lacking >> zero–they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C >> programs.” >> (Robert Firth) >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- *uSwitch is a trading name of uSwitch Ltd. Registered in **England and Wales **(Company No. 03612689). Registered Address: **Notcutt House, 36 Southwark Bridge Road, London, SE1 9EU* *This communication and any attachments contains information which is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. It is for intended recipients only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, distribute, publish, rely on or otherwise use it without our consent. Some of our communications may contain confidential information which it could be a criminal offence for you to disclose or use without authority. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the email from your computer.* *uSwitch Ltd reserves the right to monitor all email communications for compliance with legal, regulatory and professional standards.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
