Your point is well taken. I do understand where you're coming from and appreciate your preference for a moderate and inclusive approach.
> I'm all for change and improving the world but I won't resort > to thuggery to make that happen. FYI: The Alberta HRC complaint process: http://www.albertahumanrights.ab.ca/complaints/complaint_process.gif http://www.albertahumanrights.ab.ca/publications/Information_Sheets/Text/Info_Complaint_Process.asp suggests that they do start off with an attempt at a conciliatory solution, where the party the complaint is leveed against has the option to stop or amend their practise so that it's mutually acceptable to both themselves and the complainant (AHRC are just mediating at this stage). To quote: <snip> Conciliation Conciliation is a voluntary, non-adversarial way of resolving disputes in which a neutral person known as a conciliator (on staff with the Commission) helps the Complainant and the Respondent to identify and discuss the issues to try to resolve the conflict. The conciliator does not take sides or assess the complaint. All information provided by the parties during conciliation is without prejudice and will not be used for any purpose other than the conciliation. If a settlement which is acceptable to both parties is not achieved or if one of the parties declines conciliation, a human rights investigator is then assigned. </snip> > my only reservation being the HRB/tribunal is NOT an acceptable value > for "_something_." You will also note a "Panel hearing" is the last part of lengthy process. At any point in this process, changing the practise in question pretty well concludes the process. Unless the person the complaint is against is hell-bent to challenge the HRC, it will never wind up in a panel hearing. Should they decide they wish to have it go in front of the panel and they loose, they still have the right to appeal the panel's decision in the court of law. I put the time and energy into getting it this far. If this is something you feel sufficiently strongly about perhaps you could research the options and report the real (as opposed to possible) alternatives back to the group? It would be a far more constructive approach to addressing the issue than taking pot-shots from the sidelines. Should your research turn up concrete alternatives, I'm sure everyone would be interested in hearing about them, myself included. I do believe in choice, however my findings suggest choices may be quite limited in this situation. Take care, Marcel On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 09:47, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from Marcel Lecker: > > > > On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 20:54, s. keeling wrote: > > > Incoming from Marcel Lecker: > > > > > > > > Here's the link to the complaint package: > > > > http://www.albertahumanrights.ab.ca/complaints/complaint_process.asp > > > > > > And I'd advise against it. Complain to Labour Relations, perhaps, > > > but there is no intersection between the kangaroo court of the Human > > > Rights Board and the concept of justice. The Nazis would be proud to > > > > http://www3.gov.ab.ca/alrb/contact_us.html > > > > ...I guess the point I'm trying to impress upon people is to do > > _something_ rather than hope/assume someone else will. > > I agree with that with my only reservation being the HRB/tribunal > is NOT an acceptable value for "_something_." The LRB may be; I don't > know. I'm all for change and improving the world but I won't resort > to thuggery to make that happen. -- Marcel Lecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca
