Angie,

Maybe they should, especially if your having kidney problems. It couldn't
hurt.

18's

Marty

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:14 PM, ANGELYN ESDERS <esd...@rogers.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Marty. I am monitored by  various doctors. No one ever mentioned
> Purines to me. No, no gout, thank goodness.
> Angie
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
> *To:* cmlhope@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 1, 2016 8:49 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [CMLHope] Re: Hey, what happened to everyone?
>
> Hi Angie,
>
> Just dropping by to say hello and try to answer your questions.
>
> Gleevec can cause kidney failure but you also must remember so can a lot
> of things. In my case it was all of the Chemotherapy as well as the total
> body Radiation, and it took more then 20 years to say kaput to my kidneys.
> It starts off very slowly and in my case about 20 years, but everyone is
> different.
>
> Some tips: Keep yourself hydrated. I usually drink Cranberry juice but if
> your diabetic then try drinking it in moderation. Keep your blood glucose
> always in check. especially if you are diabetic. Try to stay away from what
> is called purines. Things like mushrooms, wine, beer, red meat, green leafy
> vegetables etc. You should look it up on the web to see. However you can
> still eat or drink them in moderation but defiantly no beer or mushrooms
> because they are very high in Purines.
>
> I know that your feet swell up every once in a while but if you ever got
> the gout then you really have to watch what you eat or drink, and you don't
> necessarily have to have burning unless you have a urinary infection.
>
> Actually I no longer have this problem. I don't know if you are aware that
> I had a kidney transplant one year and a few days ago.
>
> Since you say that you have kidney disease, you should always monitor your
> Creatnine levels. The normal levels should be from around one give or take
> a little. Now that is in a healthy person who has two
> good functioning kidneys. My latest level was 0.8 and that is only for one
> kidney.
>
> I am now 71 years old and was blessed with a 20 year old young man's
> kidney (just one is all that is required) Now I would like to teach you and
> everyone else something about organ and blood types.
>
> I was born with type 0+ blood. My bone marrow donor was B+ in a solid
> organ donation (heart, lung, liver etc. the blood type must match between
> the donor and the recipient, however in a bone marrow transplant is doesn't
> necessarily have to but the recipient may die through this procedure. For
> instance I was given 92 blood transfusions as well as many platelets
> infusions and many human blood products.  And in my case it did work but I
> almost died in the process. But Angie almost doesn't count because I am
> still here and by the way so are you.
>
> Now I did mention that I had a kidney transplant just over one year ago,
> and guess what the donor was in fact B+ So what does this exactly mean?
> Well if My donor was not B+ then I would have waited, who knows? I am now
> called a Chimera meaning that in my life time I had two different blood
> types, and now only one.
>
> So the cause was indeed found and "Cured" but I have to now deal with a
> lot of other things, and I think that you already know me and I just don't
> give up.
>
> 18's
>
> Marty
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:05 PM, ANGELYN ESDERS <esd...@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> I also have kidney disease. I have been on Gleevec since Jan. 2001 (300mg
> daily).  I have occasionally had swollen legs, but no one ever indicated
> that it might be from Gleevec. I have never had the burning either. SO
> SORRY you are having this problem. I hope they find the cause soon.
> Wishing good things your way.
> Angie
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* sherri swanson <swanson.sherri...@gmail.com>
> *To:* cmlhope@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:18 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [CMLHope] Re: Hey, what happened to everyone?
>
> Hi Everyone.
>
> Sorry to have been so quite but I've been dealing with a lot of crazy
> health issues. I've been on Gleevec for 13 years and have had every side
> effect it can throw at me and have dealt with it. At the beginning of 2015
> I began having some edema in my legs and I told my GP about and he said it
> was my Gleevec. I said okay I talk to my oncologist. I had had swelling
> before with the Gleevec but never in my legs and never like this. SO off to
> the oncologist and he said I should talk to my kidney doctor as I have
> Stage 3 kidney  disease. Off to the kidney doctor I went and he said it was
> the Gleevec. I said I didn't think it was and told him about all the side
> effects I had in the past. Well, that was the end of all the conversations.
> I would see the doctors and every time they would tell me how swollen my
> legs and feet were but each would point to the other and then to the
> Gleevec.
>
> Finally in December 2015, I could no longer stand the pain and my calves
> were now 24 inches around so I called my GP and got in to see him right
> away. I was sent to a cardiologist and he told me the swelling was not
> caused by medications. After a bunch of very expensive tests, he told me it
> was the Gleevec and I had to stop it right away. I looked at him like he
> was nuts and called my oncologist and told him was said. We agreed that I
> would stop the Gleevec for 2 weeks and if the swelling did not improve I
> would go back on it.
>
> After 2 weeks the swelling did not improve I actually got worse and the
> oncologist would not put me back on the Gleevec as he believed that it was
> now the the medication masking something that was causing the issue. He
> sent me to Northwestern to see Dr. Altman.
>
> After meeting with her and having a tremendous amount of blood drawn and
> making appointments with other specialists at Northwestern including a
> cardiac oncologist, I feel that I am on the road to getting this problem
> with my legs resolved. I am waiting to hear from Dr. Altman to find out
> what my BCR-ABL was as well as my WBC, as my white count was climbing since
> I've been off the Gleevec. I've seen so many doctors, I feel like I've met
> every doctor in the state of Illinois. That is way to many. I'm hopeful
> that I'll be able to start my Gleevec today. As for the pain and swelling
> in my legs, I'll just live with it until we find out what the heck it is
> and how to treat it. As of today, I have been off Gleevec for 2 months and
> the pain and swelling has not changed. The pain in my legs is like an
> electric shock and they feel like they are on fire. And I do mean fire.
> Like someone has poured gasoline on them and lit a match and tossed it on
> my legs. It's awful. That I know of Gleevec does not have those side
> effects, and Dr. Altman did think so either.
>
> Has anyone here that has taken Gleevec had any side effects like that?
>
> I hope everyone has a good week and stays well.
>
> Strength doesn't come from what you can do. It comes from overcoming the
> things you thought couldn't.
>
> L'chaim,
>
> Sherri
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Norm <norm5...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am still alive and kicking but one of my kickers is giving me fits. I
> think it is plantar fasciitis.
>
> I haven't posted in awhile and miss Millie may she rest in peace.
> Jeanie is my cruise mentor and my wife and I along with a few other
> friends just got back a couple of weeks ago from a 7 day cruise to Jamaica,
> Cayman, and Cozumel.
>
> We were busy with one of my cousin staying here quite often  while he was
> being treated for stage 4 Melanoma, he passed and is walking with Jesus
> now. Way too young and such a very good person.
>
> My beloved dachshund, Hans, turned 12  yesterday. About a month ago we
> were given the devastating news that he has lymphoma. I never knew it would
> be so difficult to have to deal with the knowledge that one day, much
> sooner than expected, I would have to ease his way to a comfortable ending.
> I dread this as he was my buddy and comfort while I was recovering from my
> relapse of CML.
> He is being spoiled even more than ever now and will be until that time
> comes. Millie would understand.
>
> April 1st will mark 13 years since my diagnosis and the start of Gleevec.
> As some know, I relapsed and Gleevec no longer worked.
> I was fortunate enough to get in the clinical trial for AMN107 during the
> phase 1 study.
> As you can tell, it worked but not before I entered blast and was one very
> sick puppy. I believe that one night the angel of death came for me and for
> some reason let me stay.
> All I know is Dr Kantarjian tells me to thank God and I do.
>
> My son has finished his tour of duty with the USMC and has been discharged
> as a Sargent with the Achievement medal. We are extremely proud of our son,
> and our daughter who is still teaching photography to high schoolers.
>
> I have been training my replacements at work so I can eventually retire. I
> am ready but they are not.....lol..
>
> My macular degeneration is stable and I have not had any shots in my eye
> for almost  6 months. Still legally blind and that will not change during
> my lifetime I suppose.
>
> I have been playing a lot of golf with my younger brother and we are
> having a great time together. He is a good brother that will come and pick
> me up and take me golfing even if it means spending the whole day with me.
> Life is good.
>
> This past December marked 11 years that I have been on Tasigna. I have
> never been undetectable but it is generally only a few cells in 10 thousand.
>
> I will try to check in more often but life has been keeping me so busy.
>
> Blessings to all
> Norm
>
> On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 9:00:33 AM UTC-6, wa2yyx wrote:
>
> Why the silence? I miss everyone.
>
> 18's,
>
> Marty
>
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