I think it came through upside down.   dg
 
 
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Here is a copy of my BCR-ABL results.
 
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What  is your bcr/abl?

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myvet...@aol.com: Dec 21 07:10AM  -0500 

To all of my CML friends and care  givers.

I took a flight to Chicago Dec. 6th to see my cancer  Doctor get blood 
work. A week later she called me to tell me  that my Hemoglobin was down to 
10.7 and the norm is 13.0 - 17.5.  My Hematocrit was 32.1% and the norm is 
38.0 - 50 %.
She  wants me to get a Bone Marrow test here in Florida because the  
airfare 
to Chicago would be $601.00. That's not going to happen.  I'm also taking 
Folic acid for the last 6 months (1mg). Folate  is 16.7 >=5.9.

She sent my other cancer Doctor down here a  fax as to what she wants. I 
have and appointment set for Jan. 2  and talk to him about what to do. (I'm 
worried). She made a note  to him that I also have CRI which may be 
Contributory.

So  back in 2010 my counts on these two item were Hemoglobin 13.3 and  
Hematocrit was 39.0. 

So back in 2015 my counts on these  two items were Hemoglobin 12.0 and 
Hematocrit was 36.1. So the  counts are coming down and I think it's from 
the  
Gleevec.

My white count is find at 5.8). Iron was 88  (50-212), Iron binding 
capacity was 281 (250 - 450).

So  anyone that may have some answers that may make me feel better just  
hop 
right it and I will very happy to hear from  you.

ALSO, I don't know now to do it but AOL is no longer  going to be as of Jan 
15. My new email address is (myvet...@comcast.net) and it's  free for me 
and much better.

Any feedback would be deeply  appreciated. 

Thank you all and have a Very Happy and Safe  Holiday.

Greenie for South Fort Myers, FL.
Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>: Dec 21  11:31AM -0500 

Hi Greenie,

First of all,  you mention that you are worried. Why may i ask are you  so
worried? When people worry about things that they have little  or no control
over then it not only effects your mind but also  your body. I know all
about this because that is exactly what i  used to do and i learned to
direct my mind in more productive  ways. Now just try to relax and get
yourself going in the right  direction.

Now you mention about CRI so read  this..

*CRI* (color rendering index) is a measure of  how accurately a light source
illuminates objects' true colors.  Our LED lights have *CRI* values of up to
98, indicating that our  LED lights are able to produce white light that
approximates  halogen or incandescent lighting and natural  daylight.

It however has some effect on your kidneys  because if they are having
problems than it is a very simple  thing to just go to a Nephrologist and
see what is happening and  why.

As you mentioned the normal Hemoglobin count for  women should be from
around 13 to 17 however not necessarily for  men because men don't have
their time of the month as woman do,  so men require a bit less of
Hemoglobin.

Now a count  of 10.7 shows that you are enemic and that can from a verity  
of
different things. One being the effects from your TKI being  Gleevic which i
think may be the cause, now mind you I am not a  doctor but someone that
does a lot of research into things that i  have already been through.

Another thing would be  kidney problems which i kind of doubt because your
doctors  haven't mentioned it. Do you know what your

*Levels* of  *creatinine* in the blood reflect both the amount of muscle  a
person has and their amount of kidney function. Most men with  normal kidney
function have approximately 0.6 to 1.2  milligrams/deciliters (mg/dL) of
*creatinine*. Most women with  normal kidney function have between 0.5 to
1.1 mg/dL of  *creatinine*..

My Creatinine level was 8.2 before i  started on my dialysis and i had to go
onto dialysis which lasted  for four years. Then i was able to get a kidney
transplant from a  20 year old deceased man who was anonymous, and about
two weeks  later it dropped down to 4.1 and kept dropping to where it is  
now
at .8 and it now stays there. Remember, i have only one  kidney while most
other people have two kidneys so i know that  having only one kidney is
doing very well for me, and no more  dialysis for me anymore.

What you did mention is that  your counts are now at "My white count is find
at 5.8). Iron was  88 (50-212), Iron binding capacity was 281 (250 -
450)".  Which
are quite acceptable and very good for  you.

And speaking about your kidneys let me give you  some information. When my
kidneys started to fail i noticed that  my Hemoglobin also was dropping
especially after i began to  receive dialysis. They were at 14 then would
gradually drop to  being 9.9 and that was the magic bullet that triggered
that i  would be able to start receiving Procrit or Epogin injections  which
brought my Hemoglobin to usually 11 and it would take about  a week. Then a
few weeks later another shot and so on. The reason  why is that your kidneys
produce a *hormone that is sent to your  bone marrow that stimulates Red
Blood cells into your bone  marrow.
**Erythropoietin* (*EPO*) is a hormone produced by the  kidney that promotes
the formation of red blood cells by the bone  marrow. The kidney cells that
make *erythropoietin* are sensitive  to low oxygen levels in the blood that
travels through the  kidney.

This is what happened to me so i know what i am  talking about. Ever since i
received my kidney transplant about  two and a half years ago my Hemoglobin
has gotten to be around  14

Now i am not saying that you have any problems with  your kidneys but i am
puzzled why did your doctor mention about  CRI? As I mentioned why not go
to see a Nephrologist . Couldn't  hurt.

Another suggestion that you have already  mentioned, and because you have a
smart doctor looking after you  why spend over $600 to fly to Chicago when
you have loads of very  fine doctors in Florida especially in your area?

Now I  have given you a lot of useful information and hopefully it will  
help
you and do you know why? It's because i was there and had to  go through all
of this and i learned what i had to do, and  besides your worth it! Yes you
are. Just as was my friend Lottie.  She did a lot of research as well in her
time which i never  forgot... In fact so did Zavie,

Now finally, since AOL  is going out then you already did the right thing by
switching  over to another (FREE, I love that four letter F letter  word)
internet provider. You also may want to get another F word  like gmail just
in case as a backup.

Please, please  Greenie try to stop worrying, just take it one day at a
time. You  know it will all work  out.

18's,

Marty

On Thu, Dec  21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope <
myvet...@aol.com: Dec 21 04:28PM  -0500 

Marty, I want to thank you for your fast reply,  I hear you. I do have a 
Nephrologist and he had me get some  blood work last month and he seems to 
be 
O.K. with the results.  I do have the paper work and will scan it and send 
it out so you  can check it out. I want to thank you so much, you have 
made me  feel so much better and I will listen to what you wrote me. Again 
I  
want to thank you.

Greenie


In a message dated  12/21/2017 11:31:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
wa2...@gmail.com  writes:

Hi Greenie, 


First of  all, you mention that you are worried. Why may i ask are you so  
worried? When people worry about things that they have little or  no 
control 
over then it not only effects your mind but also your  body. I know all 
about 
this because that is exactly what i used  to do and i learned to direct my 
mind in more productive ways.  Now just try to relax and get yourself going 
in the right  direction. 


Now you mention about CRI so read  this..


CRI (color rendering index) is a  measure of how accurately a light source 
illuminates objects'  true colors. Our LED lights have CRI values of up to 
98,  indicating that our LED lights are able to produce white light that  
approximates halogen or incandescent lighting and natural  daylight.



It however has some  effect on your kidneys because if they are having 
problems than  it is a very simple thing to just go to a Nephrologist and 
see  
what is happening and why.


As you  mentioned the normal Hemoglobin count for women should be from  
around 13 to 17 however not necessarily for men because men  don't have 
their 
time of the month as woman do, so men require a  bit less of Hemoglobin. 


Now a count of 10.7  shows that you are enemic and that can from a verity 
of  different things. One being the effects from your TKI being Gleevic  
which 
i think may be the cause, now mind you I am not a doctor  but someone that 
does a lot of research into things that i have  already been through.


Another thing would be  kidney problems which i kind of doubt because your 
doctors  haven't mentioned it. Do you know what your  


Levels of creatinine in the blood reflect  both the amount of muscle a 
person has and their amount of  kidney function. Most men with normal 
kidney 
function have  approximately 0.6 to 1.2 milligrams/deciliters (mg/dL) of  
creatinine. Most women with normal kidney function have between  0.5 to 1.1 
mg/dL 
of creatinine..


My  Creatinine level was 8.2 before i started on my dialysis and i had  to 
go onto dialysis which lasted for four years. Then i was able  to get a 
kidney transplant from a 20 year old deceased man who  was anonymous, and 
about 
two weeks later it dropped down to 4.1  and kept dropping to where it is 
now at .8 and it now stays  there. Remember, i have only one kidney while 
most other people  have two kidneys so i know that having only one kidney 
is 
doing  very well for me, and no more dialysis for me  anymore.


What you did mention is that your  counts are now at "My white count is 
find at 5.8). Iron was 88  (50-212), Iron binding capacity was 281 (250 - 
450)". Which are  quite acceptable and very good for you.


And  speaking about your kidneys let me give you some information. When  my 
kidneys started to fail i noticed that my Hemoglobin also was  dropping 
especially after i began to receive dialysis. They were  at 14 then would 
gradually drop to being 9.9 and that was the  magic bullet that triggered 
that i 
would be able to start  receiving Procrit or Epogin injections which 
brought 
my  Hemoglobin to usually 11 and it would take about a week. Then a few  
weeks later another shot and so on. The reason why is that your  kidneys 
produce 
a *hormone that is sent to your bone marrow that  stimulates Red Blood 
cells into your bone  marrow.
*Erythropoietin (EPO) is a hormone produced by the kidney  that promotes 
the formation of red blood cells by the bone  marrow. The kidney cells that 
make erythropoietin are sensitive  to low oxygen levels in the blood that 
travels through the  kidney.


This is what happened to me so i know  what i am talking about. Ever since 
i received my kidney  transplant about two and a half years ago my 
Hemoglobin has  gotten to be around 14


Now i am not saying  that you have any problems with your kidneys but i am 
puzzled  why did your doctor mention about CRI? As I mentioned why not go  
to see a Nephrologist . Couldn't hurt.  


Another suggestion that you have already  mentioned, and because you have a 
smart doctor looking after you  why spend over $600 to fly to Chicago when 
you have loads of  very fine doctors in Florida especially in your  area?


Now I have given you a lot of useful  information and hopefully it will 
help you and do you know why?  It's because i was there and had to go 
through 
all of this and i  learned what i had to do, and besides your worth it! Yes 
you  are. Just as was my friend Lottie. She did a lot of research as well  
in 
her time which i never forgot... In fact so did  Zavie,


Now finally, since AOL is going out  then you already did the right thing 
by switching over to  another (FREE, I love that four letter F letter word) 
internet  provider. You also may want to get another F word like gmail just 
 
in case as a backup. 


Please, please  Greenie try to stop worrying, just take it one day at a 
time.  You know it will all work  out.


18's,


Marty  


On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Myvety2k  via CMLHope 
<cmlhope@googlegroups.com>  wrote:


To all of my CML friends and care  givers.

I took a flight to Chicago Dec. 6th to see my cancer  Doctor get blood 
work. A week later she called me to tell me  that my Hemoglobin was down to 
10.7 and the norm is 13.0 - 17.5.  My Hematocrit was 32.1% and the norm is 
38.0 - 50 %.
She  wants me to get a Bone Marrow test here in Florida because the  
airfare 
to Chicago would be $601.00. That's not going to happen.  I'm also taking 
Folic acid for the last 6 months (1mg). Folate  is 16.7 >=5.9.

She sent my other cancer Doctor down here a  fax as to what she wants. I 
have and appointment set for Jan. 2  and talk to him about what to do. (I'm 
worried). She made a note  to him that I also have CRI which may be 
Contributory.

So  back in 2010 my counts on these two item were Hemoglobin 13.3 and  
Hematocrit was 39.0. 

So back in 2015 my counts on these  two items were Hemoglobin 12.0 and 
Hematocrit was 36.1. So the  counts are coming down and I think it's from 
the  
Gleevec.

My white count is find at 5.8). Iron was 88  (50-212), Iron binding 
capacity was 281 (250 - 450).

So  anyone that may have some answers that may make me feel better just  
hop 
right it and I will very happy to hear from  you.

ALSO, I don't know now to do it but AOL is no longer  going to be as of Jan 
15. My new email address is (myvet...@comcast.net) and it's  free for me 
and much better.

Any feedback would be deeply  appreciated. 

Thank you all and have a Very Happy and  Safe Holiday.

Greenie for South Fort Myers,  FL.


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Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>: Dec 21  06:56PM -0500 

Listen Greenie,

This is  what i do because of a promise that i once made to GOD. Let me  
tell
you about this.
When i was about to receive my total body  radiation almost 30 years ago,

just before they were  about to close and lock that radiation chamber door
i got down on  my knees clasped my hands in front of me and prayed to GOD
asking  HIM if he would spare me i would help people that were in  my
situation that i would try to help them. So far i have helped  1,286 people
in the past 30 years, and wrote my journal about  each and every one of
them. This will never be published because  of confidentiality reasons, but
on occasion i will send some of  them parts of my book in order to try and
help  them.

Listen i am no saint just a plain human being but  someone that once made a
promise to GOD and i am still here after  many many death defying things
that i have gone trough. And that  is why i do what i promised to do. I hope
that you understand why  i do what i do...

There is also why i write 18's when  ever i end any posts that i make,
because that is what i believe.  18's to me represents LIFE.

If you care to send me your  personal email address i would like to send you
something. Mine  is  wa2yyx@gmail,com

18's,

Marty

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