Well, we were moving forward on a beam reach,   I eased the sheet and began 
furling.  When I was done furling I returned the helm, grabbed the wheel put 
the engine in reverse, as I need to do that to open the blades of the prop, and 
then into forward,  The boat turned to port and when I tried to straighten out 
she was stuck, then I gave a good pull and the wheel was stuck at first, then 
start spinning with no effect on the rudder.  That is my perspective, what else 
happened, I don't know...

---------- Original Message ----------
From: honeys...@aol.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:55:35 -0400 (EDT)


I was thinking the same, it is impossible for this to happen when in forward 
motion. More to the story??? In a message dated 9/12/2012 8:52:01 A.M. Eastern 
Daylight Time, r...@sailpower.ca writes:Danny. I don't understand how the 
rudder could have swung by the stop if the boat was moving forward. 

Rich 
On 2012-09-12, at 12:32, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:

 Okay so,  Here is what I think may have happened.  I think, when I let go of 
the wheel to help furl the headsail, the rudder swung hard to port and went 
right past the stop.   This allowed the chain to roll right off the sprocket.   
When I was playing around with trying to get it back, I got the chain to cable 
fitting to go back over the steering shaft and the stop spindle on the rudder 
post wheel to slip back by the stop on the bulkhead.  What good is a stop if it 
doesn't stop anything?  Anyway I guess I should have engaged the break or tied 
off the wheel before I let it go.   I'm going to head down tonight and try and 
remove the cable and chain to order a new one.  I'm also going to get in the 
water and have a look at the prop and shaft as there is some mysterious 
vibration happening now...I wonder if the rudder managed to swing so far as to 
have bent the brand new $500.00 shaft I just installed...  Or maybe it bent the 
strut... The wife is pretty disgusted in the whole ordeal.  she feels we wasted 
and entire summer working on this boat only to have this happen and we're not 
done working on it and we can't go sailing because we need to make ANOTHER 
repair and waste more great weather working on the boat.   I think she has also 
lost confidence in the boat...  I tried to take all the blame myself saying we 
didn't do enough shake down sailing and that it was my fault for letting go of 
the wheel and allowing the rudder to swing...  Her take is that we should be 
able to let go of the wheel in a troubled situation and not worry about 
becoming disabled...I tend to agree.  As much as we both like the wheel I'm 
considering going back to the tiller...or I need to beef up the stops or find a 
better solution to prevent this from happening again.  I think, knowing what I 
know now, I will be more careful about tying the wheel off.  Or...I don't 
know,...  it is hard to believe this has never happened before... Any insights 
are always appreciated...  Don't worry about hurting my delicate 
sensibilities...  LOL I have to try and get the boat back in the wife's good 
graces or I could really end up in a Catalina.... Danny  

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:34:53 +0000

 
Friends don&rsquo;t let friends buy Catalina&rsquo;s, Hunter&rsquo;s, or 
Bayliner&rsquo;s. 
 
MartinCalypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
 
I hear ya, Russ...  I'm not letting beat though...came close and the wife is 
saying..."Now I know why people buy the brand new Catalina..."  ewwww
 
you could have 2 or 3 catalinas for the price of the Sabre that I covet!
 
If it hadn't been for the rough seas, the fast response of Tow BoatUS and the 
comfort level of my wife...I'd have dropped down below.  As it turns out, if I 
had removed the cable or pulled the pin in the pedestal I probably would have 
had control again.  I guess the thing is that, I had ot done anything with the 
steering sytem so I was not at all familiar with it...I should have known 
better.
 
I just hope my wife forgives the Viking pretty quickly or she'll be pushing 
even harder for the Catlina...At least she isn't get out of boating all 
together!  if worse comes to worse a catlina is better than no boat at all!!!  
LOL
 
You can't beat the speed though...we were hitting 9 knots with the currents 
with just the head sail before all hell broke loose!  lets see a catlina do 
that!  LOL
 
Danny
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