Why do you need to put the engine in reverse to open the prop? The blades open easier and faster when you simply rev to the point centrifugal action opens the blades and they bite and open fully, provided the speed of the boat is slower than what it would be under power.
This still does not explain the chain jumping off the sprocket. I suggest taking a close look again at the entire cable path. Also check that the bolts holding the binnacle in place are all intact. A few years back on a heavy air reach I had the two aft bolts securing it to the cockpit break allowing the binnacle to tilt forward and the cable to loosen significantly. Rich On 2012-09-12, at 13:21, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote: Well, we were moving forward on a beam reach, I eased the sheet and began furling. When I was done furling I returned the helm, grabbed the wheel put the engine in reverse, as I need to do that to open the blades of the prop, and then into forward, The boat turned to port and when I tried to straighten out she was stuck, then I gave a good pull and the wheel was stuck at first, then start spinning with no effect on the rudder. That is my perspective, what else happened, I don't know... ---------- Original Message ---------- From: honeys...@aol.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:55:35 -0400 (EDT) I was thinking the same, it is impossible for this to happen when in forward motion. More to the story??? In a message dated 9/12/2012 8:52:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, r...@sailpower.ca writes: Danny. I don't understand how the rudder could have swung by the stop if the boat was moving forward. Rich On 2012-09-12, at 12:32, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote: Okay so, Here is what I think may have happened. I think, when I let go of the wheel to help furl the headsail, the rudder swung hard to port and went right past the stop. This allowed the chain to roll right off the sprocket. When I was playing around with trying to get it back, I got the chain to cable fitting to go back over the steering shaft and the stop spindle on the rudder post wheel to slip back by the stop on the bulkhead. What good is a stop if it doesn't stop anything? Anyway I guess I should have engaged the break or tied off the wheel before I let it go. I'm going to head down tonight and try and remove the cable and chain to order a new one. I'm also going to get in the water and have a look at the prop and shaft as there is some mysterious vibration happening now...I wonder if the rudder managed to swing so far as to have bent the brand new $500.00 shaft I just installed... Or maybe it bent the strut... The wife is pretty disgusted in the whole ordeal. she feels we wasted and entire summer working on this boat only to have this happen and we're not done working on it and we can't go sailing because we need to make ANOTHER repair and waste more great weather working on the boat. I think she has also lost confidence in the boat... I tried to take all the blame myself saying we didn't do enough shake down sailing and that it was my fault for letting go of the wheel and allowing the rudder to swing... Her take is that we should be able to let go of the wheel in a troubled situation and not worry about becoming disabled...I tend to agree. As much as we both like the wheel I'm considering going back to the tiller...or I need to beef up the stops or find a better solution to prevent this from happening again. I think, knowing what I know now, I will be more careful about tying the wheel off. Or...I don't know,... it is hard to believe this has never happened before... Any insights are always appreciated... Don't worry about hurting my delicate sensibilities... LOL I have to try and get the boat back in the wife's good graces or I could really end up in a Catalina.... Danny ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:34:53 +0000 Friends don’t let friends buy Catalina’s, Hunter’s, or Bayliner’s. MartinCalypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:56 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure I hear ya, Russ... I'm not letting beat though...came close and the wife is saying..."Now I know why people buy the brand new Catalina..." ewwww you could have 2 or 3 catalinas for the price of the Sabre that I covet! If it hadn't been for the rough seas, the fast response of Tow BoatUS and the comfort level of my wife...I'd have dropped down below. As it turns out, if I had removed the cable or pulled the pin in the pedestal I probably would have had control again. I guess the thing is that, I had ot done anything with the steering sytem so I was not at all familiar with it...I should have known better. I just hope my wife forgives the Viking pretty quickly or she'll be pushing even harder for the Catlina...At least she isn't get out of boating all together! if worse comes to worse a catlina is better than no boat at all!!! LOL You can't beat the speed though...we were hitting 9 knots with the currents with just the head sail before all hell broke loose! lets see a catlina do that! 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