Well, someone else put some work into the interior then, as I see there are lots of extra storage spaces, and the pilot berths were modified somewhat. The Electrical was updated, breakers installed and moved from the top of the stairs to the front of the chart table. The cushions and primary winches are somewhere on the top of the repair list, but as Rick sez, you can buy an upgrade kit from that fellow in San Francisco for 600 something each. Also the surface of the icebox but I can cut your learning curve there, as I think I have an AutoCAD file of that, I made mine of Corian, ¼, glued to ¾ on the edges. I wanted ¼ to save weight, but . . . . A little advice to anyone doing this buy ¾ Corian, if they make it that thick, and use a router to mill out the areas not on the edges. Gluing all that up was a pain, fortunately my neighbor does that and helped me, but when it was done, I looked at it and said why didnt I just mill those pockets out of thicker material!?!?I had a local fellow waterjet the lid out so I could still use the cutout, and the lid worked great. The insulation wasnt all that bad, I am sure they do them better in todays builds, but it had two 1 layers of foam and a vapor barrier. After the top was replaced and sealed around the edges, which had come apart, it holds cold MUCH longer.
Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:18 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 39 Mk1 again -> to Mazatlan Here's the lowdown from the broker: First, let me explain that the guy bought the boat for $60,000 and then proceeded to put another $60,000 into the boat with items like: new engine, new sails, new rigging, new hydovane, etc. He put nothing into updating the interior, but you have to admit he took care of everything having to do with sailing the boat. So the cushions are original and are old-tired. This is not a huge issue and a full set can be built here in Mazatlan for probably $2500. The sink counter is a plywood with formica laminate and water got into it and the plywood spread out. Again this is a really cheap fix<$500. The refrigerator insulation needs a little fixing too. The guy just ran out of money and could not continue to fix up the boat. I personally think it is a hell of a good deal..the boat is solid with a tall rig and proven to sail well in light air or heavy. By today's standards she is narrow [11.5ft] but that means she has a nice motion through the waves. My Saga 43 is similar in that the beam is 12ft and she has a fine motion through the water. The owner is motivated to sell. You get a 39 ft greyhound for a good price. My take on it was that it was going to take another $10K and a lot of sweat equity to make it work. The number of bodies volunteering to partner up was a real surprise. I gots to think about that. On 8 November 2012 16:55, David Blair <dblair...@telus.net> wrote: I could be interested in this idea too. There are a couple of people around our Club who keep boats in that area so might be able to find out a bit more about SC and nearby alternatives.. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: November-08-12 2:05 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 39 Mk1 again -> to Mazatlan Marina Real in SC looks like it would charge under $200 per month to dry-store a 39-footer, and about the same to launch. The slip rates look pretty reasonable, too. Hmmm ... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net> wrote: When I got your message I was, in fact, looking up information on San Carlos. Looks to be a pretty good location to base a timeshare boat. The city is serviced by US Air and Aeromexico, among other airlines, and seems to have a lot of attractions. I believe it is a couple of hundred miles north of Mazatlan, and it seems pretty centrally located in the Sea of Cortez. Looks like a lot of boat rental and diving tour locations in the area, so there should be options for marinas and boat yards. San Carlos might be a good spot to be located. Im presuming that its pretty hot in the summer, so it might be best to haul the boat for protection from hurricanes and for maintenance for 3 or 4 months in the summer. Wally might be able to provide some input on the area and on the desirability of a summer haul out. There might still be 8 or 9 months available for cruising in Mexico each year. My 38 has the same arrangement of Barrient 32 and 28 winches as Outrider. I have planned to upgrade my existing winches using the self tailing conversion kits available from Winchmate. The spring jaw conversion kits run $600 for the 28 and $650 for the 32. Would agree this is a good addition for Outrider. Im not sure what sort of watermaker would be most desirable or what the maintenance impacts and costs might be. That might be a decision for the owner group. Canvas probably doesnt last too long in the tropic sun, so a color change (though desirable) might become part of a maintenance chore in the near future. I think wed need to work out a number of details about boat ownership/documentation, maybe set up a partnership to manage joint ownership and expenses, look into insurance coverage, figure out how to equitably allocate cruising time, and a number of other details. But all that should be pretty do-able. And I, for one, am pretty serious about having the chance to sail for a month or so each year in the Pacific. Especially if we can keep the initial cash outlay under about $10k and keep the annual contribution for maintenance, etc in the range of a weeks charter in the BVI which should also be do-able. _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC
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