Pat Annapolis 30? Can be found on Fantasy Island .... I think there is a hull somewhere but that was a s far as they got ... Closest thing so far - Andrews 28. freebord a bit high but is a pretty nice boat all round. Reasonably fast too! I still say the concept is exactly what the Mega 30 aimed for all those decades ago ...
________________________________ From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Nevitt Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List Fast 30 foot trailerable Chuck, The problem with the Corsair is that in a lot of the PHRF fleets you can't race a multi-hull. Mike, completely agree on the SW32. Life is too short to sail an ugly boat. Concur on the Annapolis 30, but where are you going to find one? Pat On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Chuck S <[email protected]> wrote: Checkout the Corsair 31, a folding trimaran, or a Farrier F9. There is a famous video on YouTube showing a Corsair 31 w three people aboard passing Hugo Boss, an Open 60 crewed by over ten people and fully powered up. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ________________________________ From: "Mike Hoyt" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:34:49 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 101 In some ways yes. I had seen that before. The SW32 has an interior, is trailerable and has retracting keel. The downside is that from the exterior it is plain ugly. It looks slow and I would probably rather chop my foot off than sail one. (appologies to all those who have lost a foot). Google Annapolis 30 by Annapolis Performanec Yachts. Never quite got off the ground but is the general idea Mike ________________________________ From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 101 Sounds like the Seaward 32...? http://www.seawardyachts.com/32rk.html ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Hoyt, Mike" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 101 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:08:36 -0400 Pat Yep - I think basically we agree on some things. I would like a boat that sails like a Farr 40 and has PHRF below 50 Has an interior like a C&C 110 Can be crewed by 4 persons Is trailerable and ramp launchable OK - so that was my attempt at being funny. I do however like the 101 design on its attempt to make a true racer cruiser - which is something we seem to be seeing less of now than in the 70s and 80s. The 115 is very nice with a good interior and good performance but needs large crew and larger wallet The concept I have been daydreaming of though is based on all the good I have seen in many different boats. - I use my boat in two different venues quite far apart (summer and fall). I can trailer between the two - In Winter and Spring my boat is beside my house so I can step of house deck onto boat deck So the concept of a trailerable boat is nice - great for maintenance and much better than driving 150KM each way to do chores - We tend to stay aboard in summer on Saturday nights from time to time. Our boat is fine for sleeping since the bunks are long and we are on a finger pier but at anchor the interior is too small. A slightly larger boat still trailerable would be nice. Thinking a 30 ft boat under 6000 lb disp - Our boat is reasonably fast and very nimble. 27 ft with PHRF 126 Would not want a boat that feels sluggish - want to keep that nimble feeling - I spend time on other boats - like ones where there is decent head area and a usable galley of sorts I can compromise a bit on this. Dont need an oven - but would like to stay at anchor overnight in some comfort - I like hanging out on and in boats Need a boat where 6 or more people can comfortably lounge below decks and in cockpit So there it is: - the requirements that were initially there for the Mega 30 - but how about trying again in 2013???? Modern, fast, sportboat. Usable interior. retractable (not swing) keel with torpedo bulb. Ramp launchable and easily trailerable. Usable interior. Light weight and very fast and fun to sail with a smallish crew. no not a Viper, Meges or any of those stripped out boats. Andrews 28 came very close but is out of business and not quite there with looks or power - but very close. Don't see any reason other than cost why this can not be done. If LOA is 30 ft there is tons of room to accomplish all this ... now back to work ________________________________ From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Nevitt Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 101 That Farr 30 would be a handful though and you would need an experienced crew to race it to its potential. Lots of them for sale now though at decent prices. I am in the same predicament as you. I am looking for the next boat and not sure what compromises I want to make. I did much more day sailing and racing on my 29-2 than cruising, so I think that is where my emphasis will be. I kind of like the J92S for the light air we get on the Chesapeake. Sill if C&C could sell enough of the 101's to get a one design fleet that might be the ticket, but it didn't happen for the C&C 99 or the 115. They started a one design fleet and it sort of fizzled. The 99's race PHRF in our area but seem to struggle. I may just go to the lower end of the spectrum and forget about cruising and get a new J70 for spirited one design racing. There are 40 of them signed up for Key West and Annapolis has 27 in the fleet already. On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Hoyt, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks Pat Sounds just like me. Not exactly a racer and not a cruiser ... I have been looking around for a boat that sails like a racer and has the amenities inside that can do limited cruising. Sort of like the old J30 concept. In my mind a Farr 30 has enough interior room that there could be some interior that is usable ... That sort of idea. the 101 strikes me as a nice compromise ... decent accomodations, quarterberths rather than aft cabin is great for crew, after a race crew can gather below, decent performance and a modern sprit design- and way better than the old designs has lots of on deck and cockpit room. .. and after all is said and done the owner could cruise for a week on it. A friend sold his Santana 35 and bought a 1D35. A comment he made a year later is that he misses hanging out on the boat after a race. Since there is no usable interior the crew basically takes off ... However is expensive and as you say not really a racer nor a cruiser so will be a tough sell ... Mike ________________________________ From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Nevitt Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 101 I saw the boat at the Annapolis boat show and thought that it looked goofy. It is like they were trying to be too many things for different people. The doghouse forward just makes the boat sit funny when viewed from the forward quarter. The cockpit is big though because the cabin is forward, but that comes at the expense of some room down below. Not exactly a racer and not exactly a cruiser. I did think the fit and finish was nice, but it certainly isn't as aesthetically pleasing as older C&C designs in my humble opinion. On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Hoyt, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: Anyone here sailed on the new C&C 101 yet? Looks to be a nice design and as per C&C has combined quite a nice interior with good performance. Nice to see is a fractional rig with sprit as well ... Wondering what those who have sailed or toured the 101 thought of it. Is high up on my list of boat sto buy after I win the lottery .... 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