You are a mark 1. Stern is vertical? The 30-2 was later and is a very
different boat - has creases in the cabin sides/top, a swept back stern,
most have a winged keel, wider, etc.
The 1's were designed in the early '70's and were built until about '81 or
so. Look on the upper right corner of the transom, you will find the build
number. My hull is #593, yours will be later. To show the robustness of this
boat, number 1 is sailing on the Chesapeake as well.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis" <cpt.b...@gmail.com>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
thanks for the quick response,
On the link you provided there is 2 boats . Not sure the if my C&C30 MK 1
is
C+C 30 174
C+C 30-2 144
?
On 2/8/13, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote:
Curtis,
Ratings vary by region. Here is a link to the New England ratings:
http://www.phrfne.org/page/567
There will be an adjustment for the folding prop. If I remember
correctly,
some regions penalize you, others assume you have one and give credit for
a
fixed prop.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Curtis <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
So where can I find the rating for 1981 C&C 30 MK1 All Hank on sails,
folding 2 blade prop with asy sail. PHRF?
On 2/8/13, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> wrote:
> Back in the late 70's or early 80's when PHRF was picking up speed in
> the
> PNW (IOR was the dominant rule at the time) it was referred to as
Political
> Handicap Rating.
>
> If you want to see how little PHRFNW has progressed in nearly 40 years
check
> out the Sailing Anarchy discussion on PHRFNW's unilateral and
> substantial
> increase in <0 ratings.
>
> I do not have a bone in the fight as Calypso is nowhere close to being
> a
sub
> zero rated boat, in fact I rarely ever consider the class ratings when
> we
> race the boat as it is not kept in competitive condition. We budget
> our
> sailing cost vs. fun ratio in a way that keeps us from buying new sails
and
> polishing the bottom paint.
>
> Having said all that PHRF generally allows very different boats to sail
> against each other. I do find it funny to be rated similar to a
> Soveral
33
> (+-6,000lbs) or owe time to a <10 year old planning hull design that
> runs
> laps around a C&C 43 in light air. I do get even with the sporty boats
when
> in a low speed close crossing/mark rounding situation I inform the
> sporty
> boat that they will need a liferaft before a protest flag if they stick
> their bow into that closing space.
>
> Martin
> Calypso
> 1970 C&C 43
> Seattle
> ________________________________
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
Dennis
> C.
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:15 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
>
> Sucks only if you're not in with the handicap committee. If you've got
> contacts on the rating committee and you own a boat that is one of a
kind in
> your area, you're golden. That's why I call PHRF racing a "contact"
sport.
>
> End of rant.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Colin Kilgour
> <charliekilo...@gmail.com<mailto:charliekilo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Man.... just skimming all this discussion makes it increasingly clear
while
> sailboat racing is in decline.
>
> I've certainly got more than my share of racing trophies on the wall
(both
> handicap and one-design) but this handicap stuff really sucks the soul
out
> of the sport (IMO, of course)
> Cheers,
> Colin
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Bill Coleman
> <colt...@verizon.net<mailto:colt...@verizon.net>> wrote:
> C&C 39
>
> 99
>
> 2283
>
> 16.9
>
> 51.1
>
> 45.2
>
> 12.7
>
> 39.5
>
> 32
>
> 11.3
>
> 6.3
>
> 16000
>
> C&C 39 CUS1
>
> 99
>
> 2277
>
> 16.9
>
> 51.1
>
> 45.2
>
> 12.7
>
> 39.3
>
> 32
>
> 11.1
>
> 6.3
>
> 16000
>
> C&C 39 CUS2
>
> 99
>
> 2300
>
> 16.9
>
> 51
>
> 45.5
>
> 14.4
>
> 39.5
>
> 32
>
> 11.3
>
> 6.3
>
> 16000
>
> C&C 39 CUS3
>
> 99
>
> 2303
>
> 16.9
>
> 52.1
>
> 46
>
> 14.1
>
> 39.5
>
> 31.7
>
> 11.5
>
> 6.3
>
> 0
>
>
> 99. These are our ratings up on the frozen north. I imagine at
> least
2
> of these are not around anymore, all these 4 ratings have
> modifications,
> from keels to spars.
> I am probably the cus3, I got docked 6 seconds for adding a foot to my
boom
> and a Roach Which, I might add was worth it.
> BTW, that 16000 should be 21000. Which would probably bring these
ratings to
> 110.
> Bill Coleman
>
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