Curtis, Ratings vary by region. Here is a link to the New England ratings:
http://www.phrfne.org/page/567 There will be an adjustment for the folding prop. If I remember correctly, some regions penalize you, others assume you have one and give credit for a fixed prop. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Curtis <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > So where can I find the rating for 1981 C&C 30 MK1 All Hank on sails, > folding 2 blade prop with asy sail. PHRF? > > On 2/8/13, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> wrote: > > Back in the late 70's or early 80's when PHRF was picking up speed in the > > PNW (IOR was the dominant rule at the time) it was referred to as > Political > > Handicap Rating. > > > > If you want to see how little PHRFNW has progressed in nearly 40 years > check > > out the Sailing Anarchy discussion on PHRFNW's unilateral and substantial > > increase in <0 ratings. > > > > I do not have a bone in the fight as Calypso is nowhere close to being a > sub > > zero rated boat, in fact I rarely ever consider the class ratings when we > > race the boat as it is not kept in competitive condition. We budget our > > sailing cost vs. fun ratio in a way that keeps us from buying new sails > and > > polishing the bottom paint. > > > > Having said all that PHRF generally allows very different boats to sail > > against each other. I do find it funny to be rated similar to a Soveral > 33 > > (+-6,000lbs) or owe time to a <10 year old planning hull design that runs > > laps around a C&C 43 in light air. I do get even with the sporty boats > when > > in a low speed close crossing/mark rounding situation I inform the sporty > > boat that they will need a liferaft before a protest flag if they stick > > their bow into that closing space. > > > > Martin > > Calypso > > 1970 C&C 43 > > Seattle > > ________________________________ > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Dennis > > C. > > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:15 AM > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review > > > > Sucks only if you're not in with the handicap committee. If you've got > > contacts on the rating committee and you own a boat that is one of a > kind in > > your area, you're golden. That's why I call PHRF racing a "contact" > sport. > > > > End of rant. > > > > Dennis C. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Colin Kilgour > > <charliekilo...@gmail.com<mailto:charliekilo...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Man.... just skimming all this discussion makes it increasingly clear > while > > sailboat racing is in decline. > > > > I've certainly got more than my share of racing trophies on the wall > (both > > handicap and one-design) but this handicap stuff really sucks the soul > out > > of the sport (IMO, of course) > > Cheers, > > Colin > > > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Bill Coleman > > <colt...@verizon.net<mailto:colt...@verizon.net>> wrote: > > C&C 39 > > > > 99 > > > > 2283 > > > > 16.9 > > > > 51.1 > > > > 45.2 > > > > 12.7 > > > > 39.5 > > > > 32 > > > > 11.3 > > > > 6.3 > > > > 16000 > > > > C&C 39 CUS1 > > > > 99 > > > > 2277 > > > > 16.9 > > > > 51.1 > > > > 45.2 > > > > 12.7 > > > > 39.3 > > > > 32 > > > > 11.1 > > > > 6.3 > > > > 16000 > > > > C&C 39 CUS2 > > > > 99 > > > > 2300 > > > > 16.9 > > > > 51 > > > > 45.5 > > > > 14.4 > > > > 39.5 > > > > 32 > > > > 11.3 > > > > 6.3 > > > > 16000 > > > > C&C 39 CUS3 > > > > 99 > > > > 2303 > > > > 16.9 > > > > 52.1 > > > > 46 > > > > 14.1 > > > > 39.5 > > > > 31.7 > > > > 11.5 > > > > 6.3 > > > > 0 > > > > > > 99. These are our ratings up on the frozen north. I imagine at least > 2 > > of these are not around anymore, all these 4 ratings have modifications, > > from keels to spars. > > I am probably the cus3, I got docked 6 seconds for adding a foot to my > boom > > and a Roach Which, I might add was worth it. > > BTW, that 16000 should be 21000. Which would probably bring these > ratings to > > 110. > > Bill Coleman > > > > > -- > “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to > change; the realist adjusts the sails.” > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -- Joel 301 541 8551
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