Agreed Dwight. I can't envision a way that this would turn out well. Seems like you need two fleets or a course that has little or no downwind legs. You could also just say no handicap for non-spin or just not allow any spinnakers. I'm thinking very few, short, downwind legs is the best answer if a mixed fleet is the only option.
Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk -- Want to email me privately? Check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Privacy_Guard Then get my public key at: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yU0R5RHBOS2h3MFk/edit On Feb 28, 2013 4:51 AM, "dwight veinot" <dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote: > ** ** ** ** > > Sounds like your trophy winners will be determined by the math you use…OK > if everyone understands and accepts that…Spinnaker boats and non spinnaker > boats in the same race is about as bad as racing gets IMHO…might as well > all just go sailing and draw numbers for the trophies **** > > ** ** > > Dwight Veinot**** > > C&C 35 MKII, Alianna**** > > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick > Brass > *Sent:* February 28, 2013 2:42 AM > *To:* **cnc-list@cnc-list.com** > *Subject:* Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin**** > > ** ** > > I help out with a local charity regatta called Pirates on the Pungo. > http://www.piratesonpungo.org We are planning to do a couple of special > trophies this year, one of which will go to the C&C sailboat that finishes > first in the long pursuit race on the first day of sailing. While we plan > to have both spin and non-spin classes for the PHRF boats in the regatta > (with sub classes to keep the competition fair for all size boats), we want > the special awards to span both spin and non-spin.**** > > ** ** > > NCPHRF, unlike some other regional PHRF groups, does not grant different > spin and non-spin ratings. And the PHRF base ratings that we use for a lot > of the casual sailors presume a spinnaker. **** > > ** ** > > So we’re thinking about creating an adjusted “NON-SPIN” rating for the > boats in the special trophy groups that will let them compete relatively > fairly with the spin boats in the same special group.**** > > ** ** > > I’ve been told that one of the clubs in Oriental, NC adds an arbitrary 11 > seconds to the NCPHRF spin rating to get a “non-spin” rating – regardless > of the size or type of boat. That doesn’t sound like it would be fair to > the smaller boats like the 24, 25, or 27, and it might be generous for the > larger boats like my own 38 or Charlie Nelson’s 36XL.**** > > ** ** > > During the past couple of weeks there was some discussion of how various > clubs and local groups calculate a “non-spin” rating that lets all boats > race in one class. I seem to recall one message that indicated 10% or 15% > of the normal rating was added for a boat racing non-spin. But I think > there were other methods, too.**** > > ** ** > > So the question for the wisdom of the list is this: What is a fair way to > adjust the normal PHRF rating (which presumes a spinnaker) for a boat that > is racing non-spin?**** > > ** ** > > Thanks for your input.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Rick Brass**** > > ****Washington**, **NC******** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2641/5636 - Release Date: 02/27/13* > *** > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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