There's a shoal draft version; I have one. Draft is about 4ft 9 as opposed to around 5ft 3 for the fin version. We had three at the lake; one fin that raced the old SORC a few times and a pair of shoal versions. I raced my sistership shoal draft in the Chi Mac race. It held up to the weather very well.RonWild CheriC&C 30STL
--- On Tue, 3/19/13, Gary Nylander <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net> wrote: From: Gary Nylander <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible C&C 30 purchase To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 4:37 PM Mark, I don't know of a shallow keel version of a 30-1, I think some folks were thinking of a 30-II - different boat. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Mark Bodnar" <drbod...@accesswave.ca> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible C&C 30 purchase > > Graham, > Now I understand the clearance issue - the ability to lift the boat up on top > of the cradle. I guess that could be a challenge. Anyone know the height of > the boat above waterline? I guess it really depends on the length of the > lifting straps, boat width, and height of the boat - plus the design of the > cradle -- might not know for sure until the first time we try a haul. > I didn't think about the fact that I would need a cradle rather than jack > stands - I'll have to add that to the budget (guessing $2000-2500). Might be > able to find used. > > Thanks to everyone for all the comments. If I buy the boat I'm sure I will > have a ton more questions. > > Yes, I'm aware the mast on the 30 can't be hand stepped. I watched a > different 30 footer pulling the mast back in the fall - looks like a pretty > tricky job even with a crane. > I know the weight may be pushing the crane capacity - they don't have a load > cell that I know of, but I figure it's technically below the weight, I'll > make sure I'm minimizing load before it's hauled. I'm pretty sure the > current boat I'm looking at is a fin keel, not shoal. > Not planning any racing, but who knows as kids get older. I'll likely leave > the main traveler right where it is for a while. > Looked at a lot of boat options. Also like the C&C 29's. Saw one 33 for > sale, good price, but I thought that would be getting too big for me to solo > and maintain. Likely not that much different, but I have to admit part of me > is scared of the jump, the 24 is so easy to handle and maintain, I'm worried > I'm biting off a lot more effort rather than more sailing! > > Mark > > --------------------- > Dr. Mark Bodnar > B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) > Bedford Chiropractic > www.bedfordchiro.ca > --------------------- > > There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. > - George Santayana > > On 19/03/2013 7:44 AM, Graham Collins wrote: >> Hi Mark >> Belinda would know better than I, so that sounds good. >> >> The extra expense of the big crane is no biggie, but the scheduling >> flexibility is indeed a good reason to use club crane. >> >> Not sure how to figure out if there is enough clearance for lifting the 30 - >> maybe ask Travis what boat is the biggest and measure the vertical clearance >> on it. >> >> And if you are sailing it back don't forget to factor in buying (having >> made) a cradle. If you haul with the big crane you can use jackstands, but >> with the club crane you obviously need a cradle. Mine was made by >> Yachtsmiths over in Dartmouth, it is pretty solid! :-) >> >> Graham Collins >> Secret Plans >> C&C 35-III #11 >> >> On 2013-03-19 1:18 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar wrote: >>> Graham, >>> I asked Belinda what the max capacity was for the club crane when I started >>> thinking about bigger boats - she told me the max lift is 9000lbs - so the >>> 30 should be fine. I'm trying to stay within the club capacity a)to save >>> the extra expense of the big crane haul and b)makes timing for launch and >>> haul easier rather than being scheduled by the big crane availability. >>> As for height clearance - I'm not sure what I'd be looking at. I know I had >>> a problem with my Mirage 24 on the club crane - the mast was too short and >>> the back stay tangled with the hoist -- I had to remove the stay the one >>> time I lifted the boat with the mast in place. >>> Not sure how the C&C 30 would fair in that case, but also not sure if I'd >>> leave the mast up for winter - dropping the mast on the 24 was a 2 person >>> job by hand, I'm guessing the mast on the 30 is a whole lot heavier!!! -- >>> I'll get into those questions with this list later if I have the boat. >>> >>> As for some of the other suggestions. The boat I currently most interested >>> in has a new diesel in 2000 (Yanmar 18Hp) and a new poly fuel tank in 2010. >>> The boat is in salt water (Long Island) - possibly with original rigging. >>> The boat is a 1979 - no teak/holly floor, but the mast should already be a >>> bit higher up and not the "roller/reefing" style. >>> The current mainsheet traveler position looks difficult (easy to tangle >>> crew, can't use cockpit table under sail and looks hard to sheet in and out >>> from the helm) -- that said is it safe to move the traveler to forward of >>> the dodger? - I'd think that would be a huge change of forces to have it >>> mid-boom rather than end of boom. >>> I'll put the thru-hulls on the list of upgrades if I get the boat, as well >>> as making sure the waste tank is solid. >>> >>> Thanks for all the info. The price on the boat is good (under $16000 US) - >>> but I'll need to get it home from NY - so I'm trying to decide between a >>> professional captain delivery, shipping it or sailing it back myself with a >>> couple buddies. >>> If all looks good when my SailNet contact checks it out next week then I'll >>> be looking into a proper survey - make sure the rigging and engine are >>> solid for trip back to NS. >>> >>> BTW - any thoughts on importing a boat from the US to Canada? I'm assuming >>> I'll just be paying HST on the purchase price (I bought a little bowrider >>> power boat in Boston a few years back - pretty simple crossing to border, >>> just paid HST --- but not sure how it works if I'm sailing home) >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> --------------------- >>> Dr. Mark Bodnar >>> B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) >>> Bedford Chiropractic >>> www.bedfordchiro.ca >>> --------------------- >>> >>> There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. >>> - George Santayana >>> >>> On 18/03/2013 9:03 PM, Graham Collins wrote: >>>> Hello Mark >>>> You might want to recheck with the club, I believe the rating on the club >>>> crane is about 6000 lbs and from what I see the C&C 30 is around 8000 lbs. >>>> Also check the height clearance. I previously had an Aloha 27, it was a >>>> tight fit. I'm not aware of any 30 footers that get hauled with that >>>> crane. That said, the annual big crane launch and haul isn't much of a >>>> problem. And I have not examined the numbers, it may be possible. >>>> >>>> I've sailed on Jeff's C&C 30, it is a fine boat and sailed well in what >>>> I'd guess was > 25 knots. He keeps it at AYC. There are lots of others in >>>> the neighborhood. >>>> >>>> Hope the search goes well. >>>> >>>> Graham Collins >>>> Secret Plans >>>> C&C 35-III #11 >>>> BBYC, Halifax >>>> >>>> On 2013-03-18 4:33 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> I'm new to the list. Just joined up as I'm getting serious about moving >>>>> up to a bigger boat. >>>>> Currently sail a Mirage 24 in Halifax NS Canada, bought it last year, >>>>> loved getting back on the water, but it's a little small to spend much >>>>> time aboard with my 4 kids. >>>>> >>>>> After extensive online research and scanning Yachtworld and local boats >>>>> I've narrowed down on trying to get a C&C 30. Seems to be the right size >>>>> - small enough to singlehand, and light enough for our club crane to >>>>> hoist, but still big enough to spend some time out on the water. >>>>> >>>>> I've read most everything on the C&C site, including a bunch of the >>>>> mailing list archives. Was on a local boat here the other day - getting >>>>> an idea of the size and space. >>>>> >>>>> I know the mast step is prone to softening, and the ports will likely >>>>> need replacement (if not done already), plus there are the typical issues >>>>> with the deck core, chainplates, standing rigging etc that can be >>>>> problematic with any older boats. >>>>> >>>>> Any specific advice on things I need to watch for? I have someone I've >>>>> chatted with on SailNet who has offered to check out one boat for me (in >>>>> Long Island NY there is a nice looking 30 for sale - new diesel in 2000, >>>>> well fitted out) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for the advice, >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. >>>>> - George Santayana >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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