Ken, you are removing all the mystery and potential for disaster from the 
exercise:). The glass is pretty thick there, but it's worth a try. 

Rich

> On Nov 5, 2013, at 16:28, Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> How about two small powerful magnets, one on the inside taped in place and 
> one on the outside?  The one on the outside will locate the one on the inside 
> pretty easily.  Move it around until you find the sweet spot.  
> 
> Look for Rare-Earth Circular Magnets like these: 
> http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,42363,42348&p=32065
> 
> Ken H.
> 
> 
>> On 5 November 2013 16:04, Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote:
>> Peter:  you should be able to see where the lead/fibreglass join is on the 
>> outside. If you have a sump at all, and I'm sure you do, your drill should 
>> emerge at or just above the juncture. If you don't like the ⅛" hole, plug 
>> it. No big deal. 
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 15:55, "Petar Horvatic" <phorv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rich,
>>> 
>>> your explanation is great, it makes perfect sense.  So I got the drainplug, 
>>> and I went over there last weekend to look at the possible location.   I 
>>> don’t have a lot of confidence that if I drill horizontally sideways, from 
>>> the lowest point in the bildge, (what I believe you describe as the 90 deg 
>>> angle), I will actually end up perpendicular to the bottom surface on the 
>>> outside.   I don’t know how deep LF38 bildges are but on 38MkII, bildge is 
>>> very shallow.  If I end up higher then intended it could be very bad as the 
>>> bottom profile quickly turns from vertical to horizontal.  My intuition 
>>> suggests that I might need to drill at like 30 or 45 deg angle from 
>>> horizontal in order to end up perpendicular to the bottom surface on the 
>>> outside.   Maybe I just need to overcome my fear, but I wish there is a way 
>>> to find out what lowest point in the bildge projects to on the outer side 
>>> of the hull without actually drilling a pilot hole.   Maybe a pic of an 
>>> actual 38MkII , and not a landfall or ideally a cross-section drawing of 
>>> the keel-hull join showing hull thickness would indicate exactly how to 
>>> drill. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Petar Horvatic
>>> 
>>> Sundowner
>>> 
>>> 76 C&C 38MkII
>>> 
>>> Newport, RI
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich 
>>> Knowles
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:06 PM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Installing a garboard drain plug on 38MkII
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Peter:  Using a 90 deg. angle drill, I drilled a 1/8" pilot hole out from 
>>> the interior of the boat at the intersection of the bilge wall and floor at 
>>> the lowest point in the bilge. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I then used a Forstner bit the same diameter as the outside of the flange 
>>> of the drain casting to create a recessed hole in the hull exterior the 
>>> depth of the thickness of the flange plus a bit for caulking. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Once the outer hole was drilled, I drilled the hole for the neck of the 
>>> drain casting deep enough to allow the casting to sit flush with the hull. 
>>> I then used a 1/2" drill at an up angle into the bilge floor to create the 
>>> water passage from the bilge floor into the casting. Three 1 1/4" #10 flat 
>>> head self tapping screws and some 5200 hold and seal the casting in place. 
>>> I note that the flange straddles the hull/keel joint with the majority of 
>>> the fitting and two of the three screws in the hull. The third screw is in 
>>> the lead. No problems to date. That includes dropping and replacing the 
>>> keel during my recent post grounding repair. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> There are nylon or bronze plugs with hex sockets available if the notion of 
>>> drag caused by the protruding square bolt head impeding perfect water flow 
>>> bothers the racing mentality at all. Personally, I can't tell the 
>>> difference:). One could also cut the bolt head off the threaded portion and 
>>> saw a kerf for a large screwdriver in the end of the threaded bit. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> That little gadget is one of the best additions to the boat as it ensures 
>>> the bilge dries out completely every haul out and stays that way. I leave a 
>>> large note to myself to replace the plug in the spring:)
>>> 
>>> Rich Knowles
>>> 
>>> Indigo
>>> 
>>> 1981 LF 38
>>> 
>>> Halifax. NS
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 15:16, "Petar Horvatic" <phorv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have pics or advice on how best to install a garboard drain 
>>> plug.
>>> 
>>> Shallow bildge and external lead keel make it pretty difficult to have 
>>> something that is flush on the outside yet encompass the lowest point in 
>>> the bildge to allow water to drain.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Petar Horvatic
>>> 
>>> Sundowner
>>> 
>>> 76 C&C 38MkII
>>> 
>>> Newport, RI
>>> 
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