I've got a C&C because I was in love with them as a teenager. I'd lay in bed at night looking at C&C 's in my sailing magazines instead of Rachel Welch or Brit Ekland....well I did that too! But as I got older and a little better off, I've chartered a lot of modern boats all over, including a C&C 115. There's a lot of good boats out there! A few years ago, if I'd had spare cash, a 115 could easily have turned my head. Now, these new C&C's could too. Modern designs sail real well - settle down guys, your starting to sound like you're fathers! sam :-) C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta
Well the logo really isn't bad....
Didn't mean to offend. I do recall sailing in New York back in 2000 on my 34+. My wife and I thought we were pretty hot shi...stuff as any boat under 45' was fair game for us. Along came a friend in his brand new 121 named Lady Hawk. They were doing a shoot for the brochure. What didn't make the brochure (thankfully) was that boat smoking our 34 like we have never been beaten before. Yep, it wasn't hard to talk me into a 121 13 years later. I suspect I will have the same experience should I ever run into the new breed. Better start saving now! John Sent from my iPad > On Nov 7, 2013, at 8:02 PM, "Ron Casciato" <rjcasci...@comcast.net> wrote: > > John: > > Thanks, I get it...........but they don't have to sell thousands of > boats..(Average price will be in the $250K+ range, in my opinion. They do > have to build a slick fast competitive boat that any potential J105 or J109 > buyer would change his mind for.......... > > In my mind, this is a price to market issue........hell, if I were to win > the lottery, the first call I'd make is to the new C&C guys.......and we'd > be off and running; new logo and all. > > Best, > > Ron > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > j...@svpaws.net > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 7:44 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Current C&C History; now a Dose of reality !!!! > > Well, I agree with the sentiment if not the content. > >> Sabre.......priced one of them lately..... > > Actually... Yes (although they are no longer making sailboats). In fact I > sold a 386 to return to C&C, albeit of the Tartan vintage. I don't regret > the decision for a minute. I believe there are several "list lurkers" that > might surprise you. > > I very much liked the exterior of the redline 41 and were it not for my 121 > which I am in love with I would likely be giving them a call. The interior > needs to be reworked but I believe he mentioned other designs. I wish them > well. Like many on this list I just think they are fighting an uphill battle > with the 30. They may well prove me the idiot I am and end up selling > thousands of boats. I hope they do. > > If I had a choice, I would prefer to see a return to what Tartan did > originally with the 110/121 - a really good performance cruiser. Of course, > if I was in the majority Tartan never would have sold the band. As I > recall, the comment in 1999 was that the boat needed a C&C logo on the > shower door to prove it was a C&C. Nope, not a lot of love from the Niagara > crowd. > > So yes, we probably all should be a bit more open minded. In a few years, > we may well find a few generation next C&C's on this list. > > John > > > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 7, 2013, at 7:22 PM, "Ron Casciato" <rjcasci...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> To the group... >> >> Just some thoughts to bring the conversation down to today's reality >> check.......... I would advance that most of the listers in this group who >> own C&C boats actually own boats older than 1990...........Maybe a few in >> the early 90's......... virtually none of us own anything that competes > with >> new models of racer cruiser boats today. >> >> I own one of the Bruckman C&C's built in 1977. It's a 38MKIIC and was > built >> as a custom boat for someone in Chicago to race in the Mac races.......... > I >> have completely refinished her to better than new condition and we race > her >> weekly in the local PHRF series. >> >> That makes her over 46 years old and I wouldn't give her up for any > amount. >> And yes, I would love to see those lines continued in to the future, it's > a >> great boat, but the reality is that you can't make a current business on >> those older boat's designs........ I admire Will's courage and intent on >> keeping the "marque" but really, not one of us is a potential customer of >> the new boats of any brand in today's market at today's new boat >> prices.......Incidentally, most of us are too old to think about making > that >> kind of investment in a new 30' or 40' boat. I'm sure that Will gets it, > he >> needs to create a boat that sells into today's active sailor market, and >> that ain't many of us by comparison. Today's cruising/ racing families > are >> choosing between newer designs and trying to compete with the J 105 >> .........which I can't even touch given my generous handicap. >> >> We all purchased our boats at a different time and place in our >> lives.........those choices are still great ones, but given the > "disposable >> income" of many newer sailboat types, I applaud Will and his group for >> giving it a try...... >> >> Sort of like the new "Cris Craft" power boats...........they are still > being >> made, but not in the old style and function. The market is smaller than > it >> was for either type of boat and a new venture needs to pick a segment that >> contains enough potential customers so it can survive.... >> >> What each of us needs to do is sail for a day on one of the late model >> Jeauneau's, Beneteau's or for the purist's out there a new >> Sabre.......priced one of them lately..... > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com | ||
_______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
