You should get rid of the boat, it's no good anymore. I can take it off your hands :)
In all seriousness, Outrider is a beautiful boat and she is what turned me onto the C&C 39 when you gave that talk at TS&CC. Sounds to me like the smile like everyone's saying. Hopefully that's all it is and you're back out there soon. Here's the topic covered in detail on c&c photoalbum: Hmm... turns out it's not much of an "article" and there's not much "detail": http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/smile/index.htm Keel bolt torque specs might be handy as well: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/torquebolts/torquebolts.htm You'll be able to find lots of info about the C&C smile if you search sailnet or any of the boards. Good luck. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Bill Coleman <colt...@verizon.net> wrote: > That is pretty close, but it angles down half way back, drops down about > 6”. Not much of a stub, and very little stub in the forward half, except > in the front, where it angles down about 30 degrees which you show with > your line. > > If it isn’t leaking I would just tighten the shit out of the bolts, scrape > the crack, and put some 5200 on that. Not necessarily in that order. Only > problem is it is really hard to sand 5200. > > Mine leaks a little forward when sailing, and this fall when I pulled the > mast the bolt under the step was quite loose. Will see what the spring > brings now. > > > > Bill Coleman > > C&C 39 > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of * > Peter > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:32 PM > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Crack where keel meets hull > > > > I posted a picture with a line where I think the crack is. I certainly > originates where the ‘smile’ is (though to me it looks more like a frown), > continues on, and then drops lower about two-thirds along towards the back: > > > > http://www.virtualmechanics.com/lilgoldie/inote/hull.html > > > > Thanks, > > Peter > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis > C. > *Sent:* December-17-13 3:56 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Crack where keel meets hull > > > > How's this? > > \____ > \ _________ Crack here. Bad! > \ > \ _______ Crack here no biggie. Torque and tape > | > > > > Dennis C. > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Ron Casciato <rjcasci...@comcast.net> > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Sent:* > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Crack where keel meets hull > > > > Peter: > > > > This may just confuse the topic more, but here goes: > > > > Our boats, in almost all cases, do not have the “lead butting up against > the fiberglass hull” as such. You boat must have some sort of keel sump > (bilge) that extends down below the “ Hull ”. It’s where water collects > and where the keel boats are visible. That “sump” usually is about 12 “ > deep on boats over 35 feet………. > > > > If your crack is truly right up under the hull and not down the keel shape > about 12-14” or so, then you may have a very serious issue. In the worst > case, that “stub” could fall off taking the keel with it. That result > could be tragic. > > > > If, however, the crack you are describing is actually around the keel at a > distance of 12-14” down the side of the keel from the belly of the hull, > then the “Smile” repair topics on the C&C site are more than sufficient to > fix it. > > > > I, like Dennis, have had that joint sanded, covered with Glass and > recoated with barrier coat and bottom paint and that was in 1998. There > has been no subsequent issue. > > > > It sounds like a couple of sketches would help this confusion, but I’m not > competent enough with graphics to do one, maybe someone on the list could > help out here. > > > > Best, > > > > Ron C. > > Impromptu > > C&C 38MKIIC ….’77 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List > [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] > *On Behalf Of *Peter > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:15 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Crack where keel meets hull > > > > Wish I had a picture.. but it is the complete circumference of where the > led keel buts up against the fibreglass hull – there is a clear crack all > around, but as I said, it does not go very deep. It is the only boat in the > yard exhibiting this (but then most of the boats in the yard are > traditional cruising boats). > > > > Not sure where you mean by ‘where the hull turns into the stub’… > > > > Thanks, > > Peter > > > > *From:* CnC-List > [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] > *On Behalf Of *Tim Goodyear > *Sent:* December-17-13 11:40 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Crack where keel meets hull > > > > Peter, are you talking keel joint (fiberglass keel stub joint to lead > keel) or where the hull turns into the stub? I have been fighting the > latter for a couple of years and it is a much bigger deal than the former. > It looks like we'll need more surgery this winter. > > > > Tim > > Mojito > > C&C 35-3 > > Branford, CT > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Peter <pe...@cruisingnet.com> wrote: > > I have a 1974 C&C 39. I leave it in Mexico on the hard for the summers and > try to spend a few months sailing during the winter. > > There is a clear demarcation where the keel meets the hull. it does not go > deep, and there certainly is no leaking of water into the boat. Some of the > folks in the yard seem to think that there is a problem. However, I have > had others suggest that I simply put some Sikaflex or 5200 on it and paint > over it. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > > Kind Regards, > Peter White > SV Outrider > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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