I'm not sure how many of our "classic" C&C hulls did not have cored hulls. 

Someone on the list can probably determine the date when C&C started using 
balsa core, but I'd guess it was on new designs that went into production 
around 74 or 75.

My 38 is balsa core. The 33 is cored. The 37 if I'm not mistaken. And all the 
boats from the 80's.

My 25 - a design from 71 or 72 - has a balsa cored deck and a solid hull. But 
it is a small boat and any given thickness of glass is going to result in more 
stiffness than the same layup schedule would give to a 35 foot boat. The 35-1&2 
and 30-1 are also older designs and probably not cored.

Data from US SAILING PHRF BOOK and sailboatdata.com show the following:
30-1   8000 lbs. 43% ballast. Range of PHRF ratings 168-186. Lake Ontario PHRF 
174

30-2.  8275 lbs.  38% ballast? range of PHRF ratings 144-165. Lake Ontario PHRF 
147

35-2.  13850 lbs. (35-1 had 5500 lbs ballast, which would be about 40%) range 
of PHRF 120-142. Lake Ontario PHRF 132

35-3.  10800 lbs. 42% ballast range of PHRF 114-129. Lake Ontario PHRF 123

It is not impossible to build a non-cored hull that sails well. George & George 
certainly did it. But even newer cored designs from C&C do seem to tend to be 
faster.

Recall the discussion about the non-cored Shannon 38 from last week. IIRC the 
conclusion was heavy and slow.

Rick Brass

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> On Aug 20, 2014, at 1:12, Paul Baker via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> So which one do all the "classic" C&Cs fall into with their solid hulls? ;-)
> 
> Paul.
> Orange Crush
> 27MkII, Sidney, BC
> 
> 

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