I have just had another thought on how to take out the "clunk" at least from the top of the rudder post - (I have never taken mine apart so would welcome any feedback as to why this would not work
My top rudder assembly is made up of what appears to be 4 components 1) Aluminum base - with 4 bolts - appears to be bolted through the cockpit sole (+/- 6" diam. ) 2) another aluminum fitting that appears to be bolted with 4 bolts to component 1 above (+/- 4" sq) 3) Delrin ring laying on top of component 2 4) large s/s ring threaded on the inside, knurled on the outside with a number of set screws. This ring is screwed on to the top of the threaded rudder post and then held in place with the set screws If my assumptions based on observation only are correct, could I not get a piece of say 1/4 in thick delrin or similar in which a hole is cut that matches the rudder stock exactly and which is the same size as component #2 and with 4 holes drilled to match the holes in component #2 After supporting the rudder in place, take off the s/a ring and aluminum component #2. Place the square of delrin over the rudder post, and replace component#2. Replace the bolts, the delrin ring #3 and s/s ring. The sandwiched delrin layer should then act as a top bearing. Long explanation of what maybe a crazy idea! What am I missing? -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT > On Aug 22, 2014, at 11:56, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Me too! > Are you better off with 2 washers that are 1/8 inch thick rather than 1 1/4 > inch thick washer? > > Joel > > >> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Indigo <ind...@thethomsons.us> wrote: >> Don't know anything about the Jefa washer - to be impressed or not >> impressed. Looking for something that is easy! (And not too expensive) >> >> >> -- >> Jonathan >> Indigo C&C 35III >> SOUTHPORT CT >> >>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 11:19, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Jonathan, >>> >>> you are correct about having to drop the rudder to wax the rudder post. I >>> was wondering if there was anything to be gained by using the Jefa washer. >>> I'm guessing you aren't impressed by it? >>> >>> Joel >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Indigo <ind...@thethomsons.us> wrote: >>>> Strikes me that it might be easier to have a machine shop make a thin >>>> walled sleeve of delrin(?) with a flange that replicates the ring we now >>>> have. The sleeve would drop over the top of the post and take up the >>>> slack. Am I missing something? >>>> >>>> Presumably to do the West method the rudder has to be dropped - at least >>>> far enough to wax the parts that are contained in the upper and lower >>>> tubes. I have not tried to remove my quadrant - but don't relish the >>>> thought and suspect that the bolts are likely "frozen" in the aluminum >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jonathan >>>> Indigo C&C 35III >>>> SOUTHPORT CT >>>> >>>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 8:07, Joel Aronson via CnC-List >>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dave, >>>>> >>>>> The 35/3 has a fiberglass tube without bearings. Just top and bottom >>>>> nylon bushings. If there is play in the tube you can use epoxy to make a >>>>> "bearing". The West website explains how. basically, wax the rudder >>>>> shaft and pour epoxy down the rudder tube. >>>>> >>>>> Joel >>>>> 35/3 >>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, August 21, 2014, Dave Godwin via CnC-List >>>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>>>> Jake, >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m following the discussion about the rudder bearings because it’s on >>>>>> my list of repair items for this coming year. Right now I have the >>>>>> dreaded wear problem in my rudder tube (clunk!) and need to tighten it >>>>>> up. So my question is this: Is your’s stock and tight or did you put a >>>>>> bearing in? My sense is that a bearing will not work with our style >>>>>> rudders but I was interested in the link to the Jefa bearing. A friend >>>>>> of mine here had to redo the rudder bearings in his J40 and the Jefa >>>>>> bearings were the go-to choice. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just curious on yours and other lister’s experiences. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Dave Godwin >>>>>> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin >>>>>> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay >>>>>> Ronin’s Overdue Refit >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2014, at 9:10 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List >>>>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joel, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is certainly an improvement in removing friction from the steering >>>>>>> system. It looks like this item may be over ½” in thickness, which >>>>>>> might not work for us. I am pretty happy with mine when it is clean >>>>>>> and lubricated. Friction is really seldom an issue for me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jake >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jake Brodersen >>>>>>> “Midnight Mistress” >>>>>>> C&C 35 Mk-III >>>>>>> Hampton VA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel >>>>>>> Aronson via CnC-List >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 4:11 PM >>>>>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>>>>>> Subject: Stus-List Top rudder bushing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There was a recent discussion about making a new delrin bushing/washer. >>>>>>> I just saw these. Has anyone tried one? Any reason to spend the >>>>>>> extra $$? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.pyiinc.com/jefa-rudder/washers.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Joel >>>>>>> 35/3 >>>>>>> Annapolis >>>>>>> 301 541 8551 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Email address: >>>>>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>>>>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom >>>>>>> of page at: >>>>>>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Joel >>>>> 301 541 8551 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>>> >>>>> Email address: >>>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>>>> page at: >>>>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Joel >>> 301 541 8551 > > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551
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