If you weld a rollbar onto a Delta I think you are close to the newest anchors LOL.
Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:09 PM To: Paul Baker; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor question Damn I thought my Delta was new tech. Joel On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Paul Baker via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Or a Manson Supreme (not made in China), or a Mantus - any of the "new generation" of anchors appear to be an improvement over delta/cqr/danforth etc. On 14-11-11 02:57 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: Adding my 2 cents late: I have a 1990 C&C 34R, (a 5.5 ton 36 footer) and a 22# Delta sets quickly with the 18 ft of chain, which is half a boatlength. The system holds fine up to about 25 knots of wind. Above that she sometimes dragged, especially if the wind is gusty and shifting constantly. When that happens, I add a 20# kellet or a second anchor. I pull the anchor by hand so will keep the system as light as possible. We anchor in 10 to 25 ft of water and the research says adding more chain (more than 2/3rds scope) does not improve holding. I did a little research after this thread and I am sold on buying a Rocna 15, which should work better for me. More money than I wanted to spend, but good insurance for future cruises. Thanks guys. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md ________________________________ From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com><javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');> To: "Josh Muckley" <muckl...@gmail.com><javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','muckl...@gmail.com');>, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com><javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');> Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:05:00 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor question Mark, If all you want is a "lunch hook" the smaller one is fine for your boat. If you plan to do extended cruising where you could be caught in an anchorage (as opposed to a marina) in a storm then I would re-evaluate. I'm not doing extended cruising, so personally I would not upsize. (I have a 22 lb Delta and only 10 feet of chain. Yes, I need more chain.) Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>> wrote: While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses have then mounted. I've considered one but can't figure out a good solution for my 37+. Pictures would be awsome. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, "Graham Collins via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>> wrote: Hi Mark I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and see how it hangs. I'm very happy with it. I do have a windlass tho' Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: Looking for feedback on new anchors. Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand. Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new' style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that makes the decision easier. The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well it applies to new versions. Reading Ronca's recommendations http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation. Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind? Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca) http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs. A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my costal cruising. I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further along the coast I have a security blanket. On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm. Thoughts and opinions welcome. 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