Thanks for the info, when I am on the hard next I will try this. I am certain is it coming from the small cracks from visual observations. I wonder if Wally would like to leave the sunny south and make a trip up to the frozen north for a little hull repair work ;-) Cheers, Bill
> On Nov 26, 2014, at 7:13 AM, dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Bill > > 1/2 cup per day is not really much water ingress...on my 35MKII water does > come down the mast when it rains and accumulates under the mast step...it can > move slowly show into the bilge...are you certain that is not the source of > the 1/2 cup per day...If you have an issue with water getting in from below > it should show up when the boat is on the hard...fill the bilge with water > and it should leak out and maybe let you know where the source of the leak > is...grind that area out both sides at the keel hull joint and dry > well...then squeeze in some polyurethane sealant , let that cure well...cover > with epoxy putty and finally with resin soaked chopped strand glass > matt...what you describe does not sound that serious to me so I don't think > you would need to do a major repair...but if you have the extra cash separate > the keel afrom the hull and do like Wally did on his Landfall 38...that job > was probably better than when it came from the factory > > Dwight Veinot > C&C 35 MKII, Alianna > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > d.ve...@bellaliant.net <mailto:d.ve...@bellaliant.net> > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Bill Hoyne via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > I did shop-vac the bilge and wipe it dry. The water influx was slow - about > 1/2 cup per day at most. But that was at the dock, sailing hard the influx > might be more, i will check when I go out next. I think there has been some > contact between the keel ad something hard in its past life but not too sure > how hard and what repairs were done. The cracks are not in the keel structure > as it is very strong but in the sump area between the bolts. I doubt the > cracks extend directly to the outside hull. The leaks are probably from the > C&C smile to the hull-keel interface. > > I am bobing about on a 750'x137’ drillship watching a cold front pass by - we > are getting 30knt sustained outside, sea’s don’t look too bad from 80’ up - > maybe 10-14’. check out: > http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:464725/imo:9609392/mmsi:373287000/vessel:WEST%20AURIGA > > <http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:464725/imo:9609392/mmsi:373287000/vessel:WEST%20AURIGA> > > Bill Hoyne > Mithrandir > ’74 C&C35 MkII > in Victoria,BC > > > > >> On Nov 24, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Bob Bingham via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: >> >> Currently working on C&C 34 with the famous keel smile. >> Previously repaired by boat shop a few years back and has returned. >> After haul out I cleaned out seem filled with 4200 ,torque bolts to 300 ft. >> lbs and then covered with 2 layer matt , 2 layers cloth another matt and >> final layer of cloth using West System. Each layer was a bit wider starting >> at 1 in.and ending around 5 in..Inter protect in spring as weather is now >> going downhill. >> Will know if it works after haul out next year. >> Minimal cost so worth the try. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:00 PM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com >> <mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com>> wrote: >> Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> <http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com> >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: keel bolts (mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net >> <mailto:mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net>) >> 2. Re: keel bolts (Della Barba, Joe) >> 3. Re: Using 12v trickle charger to test components? >> (Marek Dziedzic) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:12:03 +0000 >> From: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net <mailto:mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net> >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List keel bolts >> Message-ID: >> >> <134239895-1416841932-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1701521359-@b3.c5.bise6.blackberry >> >> <mailto:134239895-1416841932-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1701521359-@b3.c5.bise6.blackberry>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" >> >> I have to agree. I had a small leak in my bilge two summers ago that >> strangely enough didn't go away by itself and got worse this past summer. >> The PO had told me about a hard grounding. >> >> I got it surveyed this fall after haul-out by a surveyor with lots of C&C >> experience. Turns out I have hidden grounding damage. I re-launched on >> Friday and sailed over to Bristol Marine in Port Credit on Sunday. Will be >> $$. >> >> At least I had a great sail yesterday...I had all Lake Ontario to myself. >> >> Mike >> Atacama CnC 33 >> Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. >> Envoy? sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r?seau de Bell. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:32:40 +0000 >> From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov >> <mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> >> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>" >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List keel bolts >> Message-ID: >> <650fe5515a854a538cf20c0410063...@nsc-dag3-06.ba.ad.ssa.gov >> <mailto:650fe5515a854a538cf20c0410063...@nsc-dag3-06.ba.ad.ssa.gov>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Yes - having cracks through the bottom of the boat is not a trivial thing to >> fix. A friends boat had an issue like this that was repaired in a quickie >> put-epoxy-on-it manner and it opened up while he was out. That trip was not >> fun :( >> His crack was above the keel, so we could get at it with the keel on. We >> ground it out and added layers of glass and epoxy outside and then did the >> same on the inside. I can't say it is perfect, but it is about 500 times >> stronger than the last "repair". Also you might want to make SURE that is >> where the water coming from. I would shop vac and towel dry the bilge and >> watch it very carefully. The 35 MK I and II keel structure is pretty strong >> and I would say cracks through the boat aren't common. >> >> Joe Della Barba >> Coquina >> C&C 35 MK I >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com >> <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott via >> CnC-List >> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:00 AM >> To: Jim Watts; cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>; Bill >> Hoyne >> Subject: Stus-List keel bolts >> >> Bill: >> >> I would tend to agree with Jim Watts.....have someone knowledgeable inspect >> your boat. It is not normal to have cracks in the sump that are leaking >> water. >> >> I would not simply cover up the cracks without knowing how significant they >> are. >> >> Did your boat experience a 'hard grounding'? >> >> Rob Abbott >> AZURA >> C&C 32 - 84 >> Halifax, N.S. >> >> >> >> On 2014/11/23 12:57 AM, Jim Watts via CnC-List wrote: >> Sounds like a pro job to me. I would talk to Blackline and get their opinion. >> >> Jim Watts >> Paradigm Shift >> C&C 35 Mk III >> Victoria, BC >> >> On 22 November 2014 at 12:02, Bill Hoyne via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com><mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>> wrote: >> I blasted out to Victoria to escape the frigid Alberta cold for a week or >> so. So I thought a little biking and messing around in the bilge would be >> fun. The water in the bilge was a bit salty and the mild steel plates below >> the keel bolts were badly corroded so I replaced some of the plates with >> some 3/8" 316SS. I cleaned out the bilge and watched. When I removed the >> bolts, one at a time :-) there was no seepage around the bolts - a good sign >> I think. However there are some cracks in the sump area between the keel >> bolts and these are seeping water at about 100ml/day. I didn't go out for a >> sail so assume there would be more water ingress when the keel is under some >> stress. Is there some way to seal these cracks without dropping the keel? >> What is the thickness from the bottom of the bilge to the top of the keel >> stub? Can I just pour some epoxy in the the sump area? >> >> Thanks!! >> >> Bill Hoyne >> Mithrandir >> '74 C&C35 MkII >> in Victoria,BC >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141124/77cb6be1/attachment-0001.html >> >> <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141124/77cb6be1/attachment-0001.html>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 22:28:08 -1000 >> From: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com <mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com>> >> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Using 12v trickle charger to test components? >> Message-ID: <blu406-eas36867c5303dc6280ddf2c25ce...@phx.gbl >> <mailto:blu406-eas36867c5303dc6280ddf2c25ce...@phx.gbl>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141123/760e27b9/attachment-0001.html >> >> <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141123/760e27b9/attachment-0001.html>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CnC-List mailing list >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> <http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 106, Issue 66 >> ***************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> <http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > <http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com> > > >
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