Rick

Is it really true that the designers at C&C expected glued on acryllic
ports to stiffen the whole boat

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have the aluminum frame windows on both my boats, which I consider to be
> less stylish but much more practical, so I'm basically just an interested
> onlooker to this discussion. But it seems to me a point made several years
> ago in a similar thread has been lost here.
>
> The frameless windows were glued into the deck/cabin structure and helped
> to stiffen it, which also helps to stiffen the whole boat.
>
> Plexus seems a right PITA to use, but it has lasted the better part of 30
> years on our old boats. And the comments about damaging gel oat when
> removing old portlights speaks to its tenacity as an adhesive.
>
> Sika 295uv, and the 3M equivalent, are great adhesives and sealers. (And
> also a PITA to use. Don't even THINK about not using the primer.)  I used
> Sika 295 on my rebuilt hatches, and it is great for car windshields (which
> are bedded in rubber so the window does not crack as the car body flexes)
> but it remains flexible. And from the previous discussions on the list I've
> gotten the impression that the hull and deck flexing leads to leaks in a
> few years, and polycarbonate portlights held in by screws tend to get
> cracks at the stress points.
>
> As I said, I have no real experience with the glued in portlight solutions
> and I'm happy with my simple, cheap, durable, but not stylish aluminum
> frames. I just wanted to remind the group about why the frameless
> portlights were glued in by C&C in the first place.
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 8, 2015, at 20:38, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> We have the frameless windows and did the replacement last Spring. We used
> 3M fuselage tape - and although the prep was a lot of work, we are very
> pleased with the end result.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
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> On Feb 8, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> That might work; but butyl’s NOT an adhesive, so you would definitely need
> the screws/bolts.
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Feb 8, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Gary Zuehlke via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Would the butyl tape work on frameless windows that were attached by
> screws?  What about bolts all the way through to some nice wood trim that
> would "clamp" the cabin top sides between the windows and interior trim?
>
>
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