I have no idea what hardness neoprene one would use ... and best adhesive to 
fix it in place.
Atkins & Hoyle website says 'high density, soft durometer'

I suppose one of us should get off their duffs and call A&H or Hammerhead.

On another note, I notice that the Sika 295UV instructions call for 'Sika UV 
Shielding Tape' overlapping the edge of the window and the adhesive joint 
itself, onto the cabinside? Has anyone actually seen that or used it 
themselves? I couldn't find any reference to availability in North America 
either ... even absent from Sika's Canadian website. 

I also don't see reference on many of the 'how-to' sites to abrading the edges 
of the acrylic sheet and the fiberglass frame area prior to install. More 
discuss use of primer ... but not all state what they are using.



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From: David Paine <paineda...@gmail.com> 
Date: 02-24-2015  12:47 PM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: Peter Fell <prf...@gmail.com>,cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 C&C30 MK1 
 
Great points, I'm in the middle of doing the same refab job:

My questions are:

(1)  0.5 " diameter circular cross-section neoprene gasket (for the hatch seal 
onto frame) but what harness neoprene?
(2)  Does anyone know where to get a replacement aluminum hatch handle (the 
round one that allows the hatch to be opened from the outside)?  I killed one 
of the two when I removed it to allow the lens to be removed.  The price from 
AH was too much for me (I'd be better off machining one myself)

Thanks for any hints!

David

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Peter Fell via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Isn’t:
 
1) The gasket is only between the cast lid (in the groove underneath) and the 
frame to seal the frame to the lid when closed?. As pointed out the gasket 
material could be obtained from numerous sources.
2) The acrylic is bedded in in the frame with compound?  ... Sikaflex 295 UV?
3) The frame is bonded to the deck with butyl and screws.
4) New cast acrylic could be obtained from multiple sources using the old one 
as a template.
 
So with regards to replacing the acrylic, a lot of the discussion that just 
took place here regarding window replacement also is applicable to hatches.
 
In my case (C&C 27 MkIII) the PO had screws installed at the 4 corners of the 
hatch acrylic into the cast lid – I don’t think those are original ... It 
appears to be where mine is now leaking from (of course!) Also the windows were 
re-bedded (probably acrylic replaced) with screws included every 6-inches or so 
... that’s (of course) where the windows are now leaking from (in fact the 
screws have damaged the cabin side fiberglass around the window opening and I 
can even pull a couple screws right out of the cabin side .... completely 
stripped!)
 
Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C&C 27 MkIII
 
From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:47 AM
To: Curtis ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 C&C30 MK1
 
It should look like one of these:
 
http://atkinshoyle.com/products/hatches-and-ports.html
 
Yup, Butyl and wood screws.  You should be able to take out the pin and remove 
the lid and work on it at home.
 
Joel
 
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Curtis via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:
Thanks I guess I will damage the gasket getting a sample out of my 34 year old 
window. I will be committed to replacing the gasket or the complete window at 
that point. I will look for a name or number on the unit this afternoon. Hoe is 
the frame bolted? I don't see any access to the underside of the window? Is it 
bolted into wood with woof screws from the top side using only butle tape?
 
 
 
 
 
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
All true, and a good person to work with. I have used them. 
 
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
 
On 24 February 2015 at 08:55, Sam Salter via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:
I've not used them yet, but previous Threads about hatches on this list have 
suggested these guys too:
http://hatchrepair.com/
(Hammerhead Nautical Systems)
 
I believe the owner used to work for A&H (not sure about that last bit!)
 
sam :-)
C&C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake  Alberta


On 2015-02-24, at 9:34 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

<http://www.hatchmasters.com> 

has parts for just about any hatch ever made. If you don't see what you need on 
their website, shoot them an email or give them a call. 

Bill Bina

On 2/24/2015 11:29 AM, Curtis via CnC-List wrote:
Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the C&C in 1981? I need to 
replace the glass and the gasket on mine            and im trying to find a 
souse for the gasket/
 
 
thanks 
 
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